Unveiled Secrets and Messages of Light

THE HUM

2012-01-20T19:06:00.006-04:00

“THE HUM”

“The Hum" is the generic name of a low-frequency noise that has attracted media attention many years ago. This particular noise has disrupted the daily life and the peace of the inhabitants of some cities in the world such as Woodland, England; Taos, New Mexico; Bristol, UK; Kokomo, Indiana U.S.; the Big Island of Hawaii and Auckland New Zealand, just to mention few locations.

The Hum sounds like a diesel engine idling that produces a rumbling vibration in the walls and windows, people described this noise as a constant low-pitched rumbling noise with no discernible source. They also reported that it caused stress, sleeplessness, headaches, nosebleed, dizziness and diarrhea in some people. The Hum is not audible to all people, only small number of people have heard it and they have been diagnosed with tinnitus in most cases.

Scientists are perplexed because they couldn’t determine the origin of this low-frequency noise, however, they have claimed that it must be the sound of plate tectonic movements or a low-frequency humming produced by the Earth, other people even said that it’s the sound of the apocalypse, or caused by the HAARP project, and everything you can imagine.

This phenomenon became known at the beginning of the decade of the 90's, when news from the town of Taos, New Mexico, began to impact the U.S. media. However, this "Hum" was popular during the 70’s to 80’s as well in different areas around the globe. The Hum was a worldwide unsolved mystery up until now.

SESSION 17/JAN/2012

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.

Entity that came to talk: Master Ruanel.

Interlocutor: Master, We appeal to you, so that you remove any doubt about the strange noises that some people are hearing in many places of the planet, so far no one could determine the origin of this sound known as “The Hum”. Furthermore, it seems that it’s not a recent sound.

Ruanel: No, it’s not a recent sound... There is a very ancient civilization that comes from thousands of light years away, their technology is advanced, but in the hundreds and hundreds of years (I mean Earthly years) that they are in the outer space, their technology has been stopped because they are not settled down on a planet and the source of such technology is only found in the 7 mothers ships they use to travel through the cosmos.

Interlocutor: That’s clear... What is the size of each mother ship?

Ruanel: They are very large... Each mother ship has the size of several kilometers long.

Interlocutor: Are these mother ships orbiting our planet?

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: And How long are they are here for?

Ruanel: About 80 years.

Interlocutor: But the sounds are produced more or less recently?

Ruanel: No, the sounds were produced throughout decades.

Interlocutor: But, What is the source of these noises?

Ruanel: They are repairing their ships.

Interlocutor: So, instead of repairing their ships on the ground of a planet, they are repairing their ships while orbiting... Is that so?

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: You said that they are here for around 80 years ago... Are you sure of this time? I ask it to be sure if it's the right number.

Ruanel: I confirm it.

Interlocutor: So, specifically, Is it simply the sound produced by the tools with which they are repairing their mother ships?

Ruanel: Yes, the sound comes from the different ships that are orbiting the planet.

Interlocutor: How many kilometers are they from the surface of the Earth? I ask it because it seems that nobody can see them.

Ruanel: They are at a long distance, so that they could be spotted, between 37 and 57 km away, and they also have anti-radar technology.

Interlocutor: Do these aliens have their own planet?

Ruanel: Yes, but their planet is located at thousands of light years away, and now they have no contact with their world, because, I insist, their technology has become obsolete.

Interlocutor: But, Could they return to their planet if they wanted to?

Ruanel: They could return to their planet, but it would take a long time.

Interlocutor: Can you locate their planet? I mean its name.

Ruanel: …It’s Anion 3... A planet with a yellow star, located at 4700 light years from Earth.

Interlocutor: What are they doing orbiting our planet? Are they researching?

Ruanel: No, they simply passed by the solar system, and they considered Sun 3 the most suitable planet to orbit.

Interlocutor: Did they land on our planet at some moment?

Ruanel: No, because they are not interested on that... These aliens are just looking to explore other planets that have possibilities for life, but they are looking for uninhabited planets or planets with inhabitants who are working with rudimentary tools.

Interlocutor: Are you referring to primitive people?

Ruanel: That's correct... They do not seek to dominate anyone; they just want to settle down on a planet.

Interlocutor: How long will they take to finish with these noises, which are quite annoying?

Ruanel: I don’t know, because they have many things to repair yet.

Interlocutor: Did I really hear that sound?

Ruanel: Yes, you heard it.

Interlocutor: I remember that it was a quite annoying sound and I couldn’t determine if it was coming from inside of my head or from outside and only I heard it... I recognize that for a while I went a little crazy because I didn’t know where it came from... Are these aliens aware that they are causing inconvenience to the inhabitants of our planet?

Ruanel: They interpret that the sound is minimal and that the discomfort is almost inexistent ... Thus, they interpret it.

Interlocutor: But in reality it’s not like that... Here I have a report saying that some people have had headaches, nosebleeds, sleeplessness... Haven’t these things anything to do with the noise?

Ruanel: Yes, they have to do with it because these problems are caused by these vibrations.

Interlocutor: I understand... How are these aliens physically? I mean if they are like humans or humanoids.

Ruanel: They are humanoids, very similar to the Grey aliens, but with brownish color.

Interlocutor: As you said previously, they have 7 mother ships orbiting the Earth... How long is each one?

Ruanel: They have a length of 3.4 km.

Interlocutor: I believe that two miles in length means that they are quite big... Are they circular?

Ruanel: No, they are elongated.

Interlocutor: Could we see these ships from the surface of the Earth if we looked at where they are?

Ruanel: No, you couldn’t.

Interlocutor: And obviously we can’t do anything against these noises, Can we?

Ruanel: That's right, there's nothing you can do about it.

Interlocutor: I thought so... How many crew members are there in each ship?

Ruanel: In each mother ship there are thousands of crew members.

Interlocutor: In total, How many are they?

Ruanel: About 12,000 aliens.

Interlocutor: In total or in each ship?

Ruanel: In total, I'm talking about the 7 mother ships.

Interlocutor: Since you said that they don’t land on the planet, I have to assume that they are fully self-sufficient... Aren’t they?

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: Don’t they even need to extract water from lakes or rivers?

Ruanel: No, they don’t need to do that... In every solar system there is ice enough to extract water from.

Interlocutor: Are these aliens permanently here or they leave and return once in a while?

Ruanel: In this moment they are permanently here.

Interlocutor: Is there anything else to say about this issue? I ask it because it seems that everything was said... I mean, basically, of course.

Ruanel: No, there is nothing more to say except to reiterate that I don’t know how long they will be here, and that the delay of their work is due to their technology which has become somewhat obsolete.

Interlocutor: I see, and I say this with humor, they are pretty slow at fixing things...

Ruanel: No, not at all... Notice the size of the ships and you will see that it’s not so simple... life support, energy fields...

Interlocutor: But I guess that with their advanced technology they could have avoided making so much noise... Am I wrong?

Ruanel: Their technology is far underdeveloped compared to the technology in other worlds.

Interlocutor: Excuse me if I’m repeating myself; Is there anything we can do to safeguard ourselves against these ailments caused by the noise they provoke? I mean headaches, nosebleeds, insomnia, etc... On the other hand, it seems that not everyone hears these noises.

Ruanel: I repeat. There is nothing you can do about it... There are low-pitched sounds that are not heard by human beings and even ultrasounds that can affect human DNA. I repeat that they do not do it on purpose and they deem that the sounds of the repairs are insignificant.

Interlocutor: But how is it possible they don’t know? Being so advanced, they should know the damage they are causing.

Ruanel: Don’t forget that they are embodied beings and, as such, they are also fallible.

Interlocutor: I understand... What progress they have compared to human beings? For example, Do they travel through time?

Ruanel: No, they don’t travel through time.

Interlocutor: But, How many years would they be advanced compared to us? A thousand years, ten thousand, twenty thousand years?

Ruanel: It depends on how much progress the world will make in a hundred years. Notice that in the twentieth century, the world has advanced much more than all the previous centuries.

Interlocutor: I understand... One final question: Why did I think that the hum was related to the aliens who are causing the "chemtrails"[1]? Was it just my idea? I thought that it could come from my Thetan, Radael...

Ruanel: No, not at all, it was simply your imagination.

Interlocutor: Thank goodness that we have this vessel...

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: Do you agree that we conclude the session here?

Ruanel: I agree.

Interlocutor: So long, Master, and thank you...

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MEDIUMSHIP AND TELEPATHY

2012-01-18T02:15:00.006-04:00

MEDIUMSHIP & TELEPATHY

PHYSICAL PROBLEMS CAUSED BY AUTHENTIC MEDIUMSHIP

SESSION 07/DEC/09

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel

Ruanel: What’s up, Horacio?

Interlocutor: How are you, Master? “Long time no see”, Shall we start directly with the session? Because the first question is related to Jorge. Do you agree with that?

Ruanel: Okay.

Interlocutor: Since I don’t know about medical issues. What can you tell me about Jorge’s problem, the vertigo? Of course I think we have to rule out an engramic problem and assume that it’s only a physical problem, Am I right? I hear you Master.

Ruanel: It's a health problem caused ever since 1997, due to mediumship. Somehow, his great mediumistic perception has affected a certain function of the cerebellum, which in turn, affects his inner ear causing Ménière's disease.

Let’s say that few weeks after he began channeling through mediumship, the episodes of vertigo came over him, which were more intense causing him instantaneous vertigo, with the aggravating circumstance that not long ago he channeled The Christ Energy, which is a condensed energy that heals certain people. This healing does not make people refrain from conventional medicine, but it cooperates with it, so that a certain illnesses can be improved.

Interlocutor: So, The Christic Energy is a positive influence on Jorge?

Ruanel: Yes, among the various cells of the inner ear, his doctor applied intratympanic gentamicin, which kills its function and the function of hair cells is never recovered again.

Interlocutor: Is that treatment good?

Ruanel: It's good in the sense that Jorge would no longer suffer from vertigo, but there are stem cells in the part of the labyrinth that are regenerated due to the action of the Christ energy that he channels and It's like those hair cells go back to life again and the vertigo returns.

Interlocutor: So, is this like a vicious circle, somehow?

Ruanel: It's a vicious circle, but obviously he will not stop channeling or sending the healing Christ Energy…

Interlocutor: Okay. Does that affect the accuracy of his mediumship or Are these two different things?

Ruanel: They are two different things. This condition does not affect his mediumship, but it’s a psychophysical problem that somehow makes him a dependent person and creates some disability that makes him different.

Interlocutor: Okay. Is there anything else you can say to Jorge? Is his treatment according to the current medical science?

Ruanel: In medicine there are many things to be learnt in the field of otolaryngology and several diseases that today are not yet curable, but treatable.

Interlocutor: What about the treatment that his doctor is performing on him. Is this treatment according to the current medical knowledge?

Ruanel: Yes, according to the current knowledge. There would be a more advanced procedure, but it would be invasive and this is surgery.

Interlocutor: A microsurgery?

Ruanel: Yes, but in the labyrinth.

Interlocutor: Do you recommend it?

Ruanel: No, not for the moment.

Interlocutor: Is there something more to say about his condition?

No, but I was going to talk something more about the reactive mind and engrams. Millions of years ago, when there was the automatic reactive mind, the impulsive reactive mind was merged with the automatic reactive mind and it was the impulsive reactive mind, conjoined with the automatic reactive mind, the one who saved the prehistoric man from falling prey to a predator mammal bigger that him, such as…

Interlocutor: …A saber-toothed tiger.

Ruanel: …A Smilodon, a megatherium or a mammoth. That reactive mind used to react in a matter of tenths of a second because the analytical mind, If it would have existed, by not having the necessary weapons to defend himself, he would have fallen prey to the beast immediately, just by thinking ‘What do I do???’ He would have lost valuable seconds and, therefore, the prehistoric man would have fallen prey to this predator. Later on, the automatic reactive mind and the impulsive reactive mind were dissociated, if you understand the concept.

When I was incarnated, I knew through various studies that this reactive mind somehow conditioned human beings. Then, I worked many years on the automatic reactive mind, which is the original mind that I ‘rediscovered’ Because in reality nothing is discovered. And this vessel, many years later, rediscovered the impulsive reactive mind, which is the one that was associated in the beginning of the homo erectus with the automatic reactive mind.

Then the terms sub-minds appeared -if you want to call it like that, although I don’t like this word- as the dear brother Johnakan says, the concept is much more beautiful and complete than the spoken language. We speak about the depressive reactive mind, which is a mind that also has a tremendous influence and it also conditions the embodied being.

There are different minds that somehow condition tremendously the embodied being, and this is something that unfortunately, was not approached when I was incarnated in a 10%. The issue related to the roles of the ego.

It is important that this vessel rediscovered that because the roles of ego has been approached for thousands of years in the region called India -probably through Buddhist philosophy, but it’s not so much what they know. There are many “teachers” who speak about the ego, but they do not speak about the roles of ego because they take the ego as if it were an entity and not like different roles that can be in opposition from each other. One can say that the mind in the roles of the ego is not separated like in the several psychoanalytic personalities as your dear friend Freud said.

Interlocutor: Master, you spoke well about Freud overall, you did not speak so badly about him.

Ruanel: This vessel already said it. If Sigmund Freud had had psychoauditing sessions, of course, the whole psychoanalytic theory would not have developed in the way that it was developed.

Interlocutor: Is Freud in the 5th plane as spirit?

Ruanel: What matters is the intention, it is always said, unless if in certain techniques catastrophes are made, but what matters many times is the intention.

This vessel, and perhaps he has told you this, he does not have very good concept of my being, this vessel that channels me in this moment, does not have a very good thought of my being. He is surprised that I am in the 5th spiritual plane being that when I was incarnated, according to him, according to my vessel, I have committed some violent acts like being separated from my son and even becoming a staunch enemy, I even subjugated people, somehow at tyrannical level and I honestly admit that many times I have overdimensioned my performance in pursuit of a bigger benefit.

ENGRAMIC RESTIMULATION IN PSYCHOAUDITING

INTEGRATING ROLES OF EGO THROUGH PSYCHOINTEGRATION

SESSION 19/JAN/10

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel

Ruanel: What’s up Horacio, how are you?

Interlocutor: How are you, Master?

Ruanel: Fine, fine.

Interlocutor: I won’t even ask if you want to give a little speech because we’ll skip it.

Ruanel: It's okay.

Interlocutor: No, you know that I’m joking. If you want to say a few words before we begin, we are ready to hear you. If not we’ll go straight to the questions.

Ruanel: Let’s go straight to the questions.

Interlocutor: Just out of curiosity: In how many places are you in this moment, aside from here? We know that you, the spirits, can be in several places at the same time.

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: So, Are you with us here or with another medium?

Ruanel: No. I'm here.

Interlocutor: Okay. But are you in other places as well or not?

Ruanel: No.

Interlocutor: Are you exclusively here?

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: But Could you be somewhere else?

Ruanel: I could be ‘conceptually’ in mission helping, conveying conciliatory ideas to causal bodies of incarnated beings, but no, at this moment I'm only here.

Interlocutor: Okay. Master, I have a question that I consider very important, maybe I asked it before, but I don’t remember, at least not at this moment: Do the spirits restimulate in the same way that we, the embodied beings, restimulate? Is this principle correct?

Ruanel: Absolutely.

Interlocutor: Okay. But what happens when a spirit is restimulated and it’s not incarnated? And what happens when a thethan, or 90% spirit, is restimulated? What happens to the incarnated part? I ask it because at one point my thetan almost apologized when we were psychoauditing a past life which caused me distress, anxiety, and it's like my thetan transmitted to me those feelings. How does it happen? I guess that my question is clear, I don’t know.

Ruanel: Well. You have answered one part of the question, for example, what happens when a thetan is restimulated? Obviously the thetan “contaminates” unintentionally the incarnated part or 10%. Even more being a Spirit of Light. Even more being a Thetan of Light.

Obviously the greater consequence will be transmitted to the incarnated part because the embodied being will have all kind of psychophysical symptoms. However, a 100% spirit has no physical part to contaminate and it’s very difficult that a 100% can be restimulated, because the Spirit of Light lives only to serve others. However, it can happen, and it has happened that conceptually the Thetan helps someone else’s thetan, and in turn, this thetan has been affected by the stimulation of situations lived in other past lives. That thetan, or 90% Spirit of Light, will send direct conciliatory ideas, harmony, compassion to that thetan from conceptual mind to conceptual mind. And it will send a concept of harmony to the causal body of the embodied being.

But what happens? Let’s suppose, and only suppose that an ill-fated past experience was lived by a role of the thetan in another past life, which is affecting his present life, and let’s suppose that the Spirit of Light is not incarnated and tries to help that thetan by alleviating the circumstance and it happens that when it approaches -like when you put your head in the water and look at the depth- and the Spirits sees something distasteful.

Translating this idea would be: That spirit of Light is obviously in a plane 5, it has no roles of ego, it may be dragging minimal engrams and it visualizes a past life of the thetan who is being helped and rediscovers that it’s a very similar life to which the Spirit lived decades or centuries or many millennia ago and Oh! The Spirit is restimulated.

Interlocutor: I understand. Now, wait a moment, when the Spirit is incarnated, the 10% would be something like a ground cable, it’s inevitable... Let's see, you know that in Dianetics, you yourself said that when engrams are not removed, a chain of engrams, the reactive mind is not cleared out, right? You said it.

Ruanel: Correct, but in your jargon, the ground cable word has another meaning, it means discharge, as if you as a 10%, would be discharging engrams from your Thetan. It’s not like that. No.

I understand what you mean, but I would change the name. It’s not a ground cable, but it doesn’t matter, the definition is well understood.

What happens is that the thetan can transmit to you slumber. It’s not a physical slumber, because the Thetan, obviously has no body and therefore it has no slumber, but this idea is to be understood, because there is no exact word, not even a definition so that this vessel can decode it in an understandable way, but it’s a kind of mental torpor, which is not that either because the conceptual mind does not feel fatigue.

Interlocutor: Okay. It’s a mistake to call it a ground cable because the ground cable discharges everything, however, the 10% remains charged, I mean the idea is clear.

Ruanel: But there is a very important thing, and don’t forget what you are going to ask- this could be misinterpreted- people could understand that the thetan uses the 10% to discharge… Watch out!

Interlocutor: No, no, I think it's an automatic thing like a lightning. It’s clear. A Thetan can be restimulated and inevitably can transmit unintentionally the charge to the 10% incarnated.

Ruanel: Yes, absolutely. First of all, because the spirit never loses his memory and certainly- not talking about spoken language- the spirit does not live on a planet, then this sentence for you would be –the Spirit is not twenty four hours a day in mission- sometimes the Spirit is hovering. I use this word as a license.

Interlocutor: So it's like the Spirit remembers...

Ruanel: Sure ...

Interlocutor: ... remembers a past life and it’s restimulated.

Ruanel: The Spirit is restimulated even having a complete and absolute certainty that in the physical plane the embodied beings are merely roles. For example, you have seen some romantic movies, which are very emotional and poignant movies that you may even have tears in your eyes and you can say: “Wow! How can this be? Why am I crying if all I’m seeing is just fiction?” They are actors, who are acting, and they received money to act in the movie that you are seeing in the cinema or watching in your TV.

You say: "I know," however, you get into the character and you feel happy if the movie has a good ending or you stay in suspense if the plot in the movie is to be continued…

Interlocutor: Okay. The question is: Can the spirit be restimulated if it embodied as a girl, in a previous life who suffered the same circumstance in a present life? Is it restimulated or am I wrong?

Ruanel: The very Spirit can be restimulated by bringing back to life painful experiences. Now, and this is already clear, but I repeat it in order to make it perfectly clear, when you had a previous life which you have reviewed and you have left - and this is a phrase of yours, not mine- pleasant memories, because you have eliminated the engrams of this life and you have the pleasant memories of having lived a good time and it doesn’t cause you pain remembering a sorrowful past experience. Since you have only pleasant memories. So there is no possibility of restimulation, no, because that is over.

Interlocutor: Okay. That is clear on this issue. Is there something else to say?

Ruanel: No, no, no. That is all.

Interlocutor: Okay. Here I have a question that has to do about confrontation. Could a person that has no roles of ego feel despondent, for example? I think that it’s something normal, very human, we would say. You know where my question aims to.

Ruanel: There is something very important to say, my answer is an answer that would be helpful to many people: First of all, the role of the ego is not destroyed because the role of the ego is part of the spirit, because the reactive mind is part of the spirit and the role of the ego is one of its fruits.

The role of ego is integrated, unlike engrams that are restimulated. If this role of ego is integrated, it may be lurking. Then, if I were embodied and I have the capacity of confrontation in which nothing affects me, I will be affected by the other person's suffering, but that's not a role of ego, this is called compassion and mercy - because they are not synonyms. Compassion is a feeling very similar to pity, but with a total detachment from ego. Compassion is a feeling so elevated as love is.

Interlocutor: Well, of course.

Ruanel: Well. I have no roles of ego being incarnated, but it can happen that the role of the ego will be lurking, watching as a spectator on my ability to confront. And those people that really interest me are going to have in some way-and this doesn’t go against what this beloved Master Johnakan Ur-El said, but they will have more power over me than those people I don’t’ know. For example, If I were a public person and a journalist makes a quite harmful criticism about me, if I had the roles of ego his criticism will bother me very much, on the other hand, if I don’t have roles of ego, his criticism will not have any effect on me! At the most, if I notice a calumny or a slander on behalf of that journalist, I will initiate legal actions against that journalist. Are you following me?

Interlocutor: Yes.

Ruanel: However, if a person close to me, a person who I love or I feel affection or appreciation for that person- you can use the adjective you like- That person will have an influence over me, even if I lack of ego because it’s a person that I'm going to consider and by confronting that person, if that person insults me, somehow I will give more meaning to his words than the journalist’ words to whom I don’t even know or perhaps I know only his name or his photo.

Then, my ability to confront will decrease due to that person I love or I feel affection for. It doesn’t go against what Johnakan said about the Fictitious power of words, not at all. For example, If I am incarnated and I have a brother whom I love with all my being and that brother deceives me, I will be hurt very much and somehow his behavior is going to weaken my being and I will be more sensitive.

If I try to persuade that brother that his attitude is wrong and he argues with me that not only am I wrong, but he also says: - "You've hurt our mother many years ago" when in fact he was the one who hurt our mother, because our mother was missing him when he disappeared three or four days and I was at home with Mom all the time, but he distorted the whole thing at his own convenience and accommodated the reality putting me in the place of the person to blame.

You will tell me, Horacio: “Well, you have it clear because you know that you would never hurt your mother and on the contrary, you were the one who calmed her down and held her back when she cried because your brother was not coming home and she didn’t know where he was, you would you feel comfortable.” However, at that moment, seeing my brother, perhaps with a so twisted ego, convinced -like many manipulative people- that he left Mom due to more powerful reasons and assuming that I mistreated her or I am picking on him by saying to her: "Did you see my brother? Have you seen how he is? Look how good I am" and my brother disappears and he distorts the whole story and he himself believes his story and at some point, somehow, he loses the ability of confrontation and he may even lose control.

Interlocutor: That is normal in manipulation, we could say, it’s no big deal.

Ruanel: There is nothing special, but obviously you have to work on these roles of the ego, one should work on these roles of ego because the roles of ego are never destroyed. Not only do you have the roles of ego until the last day of your incarnation, but you will have them until the last moment in which you will merge with the Creator in the next big crunch.

Interlocutor: Okay. Master. That is clear. We will continue because, Well, you see a picture here, you know what this is all about.

Ruanel: Let me clarify one thing because many people have asked this. When you say: "Master. Can you see the picture?" I actually can’t see the picture because I have no physical eyes, I can’t see through this vessel either because the vessel has his eyes closed...

Interlocutor: Ah, Do you see it through my eyes?

Ruanel: No, what I do is to conceptualize the photo, I don’t see the picture through you either, Horacio, I'm conceptualizing. One always says: "Can you see the picture?" And...

Interlocutor: But the concept is much more important than...

Ruanel: The concept is much more important, because people might mistakenly believe that I see the picture through the eyes of the vessel...

Interlocutor: Well, I thought that you saw the pictures in the same way that I see them...

Ruanel: No.

Interlocutor: And perhaps with more details...

Ruanel: No!

Interlocutor: Ah!

Ruanel: Horacio, in the spiritual planes we have none of your five senses, none.

Interlocutor: Well, but you all have higher senses. I thought you saw us even as we also see each other.

Ruanel: No, no, no. We conceptualize. What happens is that there are different types of concepts. You think unilaterally, you might say...-Poor; I'm squeezing the vessel’s decoder-. You think that the mental concept is an abstract concept and maybe mathematical. Are you following me?

Interlocutor: Yes.

Ruanel: The mental concept goes even further. The mental concept is also a kind of vision; the mental concept is a kind of hearing. This means: Suppose that you want to contact me and you are going to contact me mentally –although there is no telepathy in the physical plane, telepathy does exist in the spiritual planes and between the physical and spiritual planes.

You raise your thought mentally and I get it conceptually. However, let’s suppose that you - like many other people who like to pray- pray and say: "Oh, I would like to ask you…” and you name a particular entity." Not only did I perceive your mental concept with my concept, but also I perceived your voice vibration, I didn’t hear the voice because I have no hearing sense, but I grasped conceptually that vibration and that vibration, in milliseconds is transformed in concept. This is something that was not said before.

I can conceptualize music, I can perceive violin music, I can conceptualize piano music, I perceive sounds, vibrations and I transform them into a conceptual music to my conceptual ear- and I say it in a way that you can understand me because it is not going to sound like that either-. It will sound equal or better than what you can hear with your physical ears while you listen to a piano.

Interlocutor: Okay, Master. But if Jorge opened his eyes and looked at the picture, since you are incorporated, we would say, Can’t you see through Jorge’s eyes?

Ruanel: No, I conceptualize.

Interlocutor: You can’t see?

Ruanel: No.

Interlocutor: Can you hear through Jorge’s ears?

Ruanel: No, because... and I'll tell you why I can’t: Although the vessel channels a certain spirit or thetan, the thetan cannot make any use of that body beyond conveying relevant information, the thetan cannot use his eyes or the sight of the vessel, but...

Interlocutor: But sometimes the vessel moves his hand… Are you the one who moves his hand, for example?

Ruanel: That is the license on behalf of Johnakan who uses this vessel, because if Johnakan didn’t give me permission, I would have a body, ‘almost dead’ because I couldn’t make sounds or even open the mouth. At the time this vessel is expressing himself in spoken language, not only will he move his hands, but also he’s going to move his mouth.

Now, notice a detail -the tree was covering the forest- you noticed that when this vessel is channeling he moves his hands and you said: "Yes, but then, you, Ruanel, somehow are using his body" and you have seen the most obvious thing, the vessel moves his lips. However; that's not Ruanel; that's Johnakan giving a license or permission. I mean, I myself could not do it. In addition, we run the risk – and it’s almost certain that it’s going to happen- that if Johnakan allows the vessel to open his eyes, by opening his eyes is like that, I am disconnected.

Interlocutor: Yes, what I meant was if I light a match and burn Jorge’s finger, you cannot feel that pain, but Jorge does.

Ruanel: Automatically the connection is over and I unplug myself. In other words, we talked about it in a session that if there is a loud noise, the self-preservation of the vessel may throw me away, ‘figuratively speaking’ I say figuratively because actually it is not like that either.

This is very important that people understand about the spiritual world and mediumship. That’s the issue.

Interlocutor: Okay. In the future, whenever I say: "Do you see this picture?..." we already will know that you are seeing it differently.

Ruanel: Yes, yes, of course.

Interlocutor: Symbolically…

Ruanel: Perhaps I might discern many more details than those you perceive with your physical eyes.

INACCURACY IN MEDIUMSHIP

UNICITY OF INCARNATION

SESSION 19/AUG/02

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Johnakan Ur-El

Interlocutor: Approaching another topic, I wanted to ask you about A. M., with whom we are communicating through emails. This person is part of a group that communicates with spiritual entities and one of its members is a medium.

Johnakan Ur-El: The Thetan or Higher Self of this person is in the 4 plane of spiritual vibration, you know that it’s a mastery plane. He has made many important things on the physical plane, he has helped many people, he has given money the value only to survive, he’s not a greedy person by any means. His mistake, if you could call it like that, is that he receives wrong information sometimes, and he clings to it blindly thinking that in this way he will achieve spiritual enlightenment.

Interlocutor: Is he a medium or he uses a medium?

Johnakan Ur-El: No, he is not a medium, he is using a medium.

Interlocutor: What percentage of accuracy does the medium have?

Johnakan Ur-El: Unfortunately very little. Only 30% of accuracy. The 70% conveyed though the spiritual entities is crazyness on behalf of the same medium, who has preconceived ideas. It's as if my vessel had the whim, so to speak, to think a particular thing deeming worthless the words of other people that could make him come to reason. And then he channels a spiritual entity and he puts part of himself, distorting the concepts that are given. This can be done because God gives Free Will and the vessel can channel accurately and distort a message as well.

Interlocutor: I understand what you say because a medium I knew before used to do the same thing.

Johnakan Ur-El: That’s right. He even went so far trying to imitate the accent of the language of the Entity that was being channeled, like the incarnation of he who was, for example, Confucius, and whenever this Entity was channeled, the medium used to speak, imitating the accent of the Chinese language, just like the comedians do when they want to imitate someone of that nationality.

Interlocutor: So the whole problem would not be part of A. M. but the medium... Is this correct?

Johnakan Ur-El: The problem is not only the medium, because this person does not use his common sense or rational mind and he believes blindly “to the letter” whatever the medium says to him. He firmly believes what the medium says no matter how absurd or illogical the concept might be.

Interlocutor: Specifically, when he said that he contacted with you It Wasn’t you?

Johnakan Ur-El: Not at all. Those who pretend to be other Spiritual Entities are the spirits of error. The Masters of Light have no need to pretend to be other spirits, because each one of them gives similar messages, in their measure. The tactics of the spirits of error, and this was said in another opportunity, is to convey messages of light at first, so that those people that are attending the sessions come into confidence, and so they are led astray where the spirits of error want to take them. That is, to the confusion.

Interlocutor: A. M. says that in a previous life I was Cauchon, the bishop who ordered the burning of Joan of Arc. He also says that he was Peter, the disciple of Jesus, Julian the Apostate, Mohammed and Jean Paul Marat. He even said that I, as well as Nero, was also Voltaire. Apparently, according to his word, a woman of this group is the current reincarnation of Joan of Arc. Is this all true?

Johnakan Ur-El: He was almost all the people he said, but not Mohammed. It is also true that a woman in this group is the reincarnation of Joan of Arc. However, it is not true that you were Voltaire in a past life, because at that time you were incarnated as another person and a spirit cannot have two incarnations simultaneously.

Interlocutor: The problem with this information is that A.M. has part of the truth and the other part is false... You can never be sure about what he says!

Johnakan Ur-El: There's the cunningness of the spirits of error, because if they said all falsehoods everyone would realize immediately the false information, at least some of them, for example through hypnotic regression. However, if they receive a great deal of truth and in between they get some lies, surely they will be confused at will.

Whenever somebody wants to poison his victim, without any suspicions, the poisoner will give a small dose of poison mixed with a sweetening substance, so that the poison passes unnoticed. Based on this principle the spirits of error operate, they poison the minds of the people they want to destroy little by little.

Interlocutor: I don’t understand how the entities of error can say some truths.

Johnakan Ur-El: Some of these spirits of error, who are now in the planes 2 and 3, were Masters of the planes 4 and 5, who fell prey to ego and so they descended from plane. This explains why they can convey truths at times. Those who are channeled not only are the entities of the planes 2 and 3, who have never left these planes.

Interlocutor: Are they communicating with a higher Entity of Light at the moment?

Interlocutor: Not at the moment, but at the beginning they did, They tried to clarify the reliable transmission and the false information, but the medium interrupted the argument. The medium is a person who is blinded by his own convictions and he is hardly objective with the information he conveys.

Imagine the hypothetical case of a medium, who is an Orthodox Jew - I say hypothetical because Jews do not believe in mediumship- and suddenly this “Jewish medium” gives a message saying that Judaism is not the greatest truth.

What will happen then? Well, his engrams will prevent the accurate transmission of the message, due to his own religion- because religion is an engramic implant after all- therefore, he is not going to transmit the accurate concept, which is negative according to his religious beliefs. Do you understand me?

Interlocutor: I understand perfectly and the issue has been clarified.

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEDIUMSHIP AND TELEPATHY

Email received:

Hello!

Thank you for creating the website, I've only recently discovered it and have been reading it nonstop :)

I just finished reading about David Icke, where it's written: "In the physical plane such thing does not exist, Telepathy is only an attribute of the spiritual world."

Would it be possible to explain this a bit further? My twin sister and I were telepathic when we were very young. In fact, this scared our mum & other siblings and they could not understand how we would communicate only through our thoughts. In fact, our mom was so frightened that she told us repeatedly to stop communicating this way. I find it hard to believe that telepathy only exists in the spiritual world.

I just wanted to express my thoughts and thank you again for creating such an insightful website.

Kind regards,

C. B.

Dear Friend:

The explanation is very simple; Notice that very close friends, twin brothers and conjoined twins have a very fluent communication between their thetans. For this reason it's not strange that sometimes you begin thinking about a friend of yours or your twin sister and you feel like you want to call that person and suddenly the phone rings and What a Surprise!!! the person you were thinking about a second ago called you in the first place.

Another example, when you have a very good friend, usually that friendship becomes also a friendly relationship in the superphysical planes (between Thetans) and the thetans convey ideas to the incarnated parts and in this way it seems that very close friends or siblings can somehow have the same feelings or thoughts.

However, this process is not physical telepathy. The spiritual communication among spirits or TELEPATHY is when the spirits transmit large ammounts of information without distortion through concepts within seconds.

There is always a distortion of the ideas sent from the spiritual planes to the physical plane, it's not like using your telephone, and therefore nobody can read your mind through telepathy because this communication is based only through concepts not words. Remember. The spirits communicate through concepts not words. This is Very important!

Most of the mediums have an accuracy of 20% while translating concepts even when they are in trance. And I repeat, telepathy is only an attribute of the spiritual world because the brain (mental decoder) only decodes the spiritual message translating it into words.

Most of the people only have a very high intuition, but this is not telepathy.

HUMAN CRUELTY

2012-01-01T21:14:00.004-04:00

HUMAN CRUELTY

How can Human Cruelty be described?

SESSION 24/ JUN/2009

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont

Entity that came to talk: Master Ruanel

Interlocutor: Master Ruanel?

Ruanel: How are you Horacio?

Interlocutor: How are you, Master? How have you been?

Ruanel: Fine.

Interlocutor: Today we are going to talk about a very interesting topic, right?

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: Since you already know the questions, obviously you also know the answers. Is there unanimity in the spiritual world with regard to the answers you will give to the questions I’m going to ask you or are there some subtleties?

Ruanel: As the dear Johnakan said once, the spoken language is very poor compared to the spiritual concept, then, through this mental decoder I will find a way to be understood. There is unanimity in the sense of saying, "This thing is like that,” or "That thing cannot be," but within this unanimity there are different opinions, something that cannot be understood in the spoken language, because what is unanimous is never different.

In order to have a clearer concept let’s speak about a grand jury that reaches a verdict.

In order to have a verdict this one must be unanimous, but maybe even if there is unanimity, there are different points of view within the jury with regard to what kind of guilt a convicted person might have.

Interlocutor: Okay. Master, but let’s not inquire first because I have the question written for the record and secondly, I want to make my idea clear for you, and then you can comment if it’s right or wrong, Do you agree?

Ruanel: Correct. This was a preamble then. Perfect.

Interlocutor: It's a bit long, but I think it’s worth it. First of all I want to make clear that it’s difficulty to describe what I want to express because the human language is very poor to express many concepts.

The first topic can be summarized as follows: In my opinion, any aberrated act is necessarily committed by someone who is aberrated (aberree).

Corollary 1: An aberrated act cannot be committed by someone who is not somehow aberrated.

Corollary 2: If someone who is not aberrated commits an aberrated act, it would be an exceptional case and therefore it couldn’t be taken into account, but only considered as an exceptional case.

Corollary 3: If someone aberrated (aberree) commits an aberrated act one cannot judge him as if he were not aberrated.

All of this is related to the case of men who rape women a topic that raises interesting debate.

I believe that my intention was misunderstood. Because I wanted to suggest that, as the Master Jesus said, we should not judge and we won’t be judged. We know that the Master Jesus meant that we should not condemn without knowing. That is, he was speaking about prejudice.

I wrote an article because the people usually judge easily and simplistically: A rapist is a monster and he should be skinned alive and the victim is the only one worthy of compassion because she is totally innocent. No one doubts of the wickedness of the act itself, in this case the rape, but I'm reluctant to prosecute the rapist without knowing the reason why he acted in that way, I presume that if he raped is because he is aberrated, otherwise he wouldn’t have done such thing.

Also, in order not to point a finger at him, I think that maybe I would have done the same aberration had I been in the same circumstances. Do not Judge or you will too be judged.

I state that I’m not referring to the rape, which is a condemnable act, but to the mental status of the rapist. I'm reluctant to prosecute the rapist without knowing how things happened.

I must say that modern justice considers that the punishment to the transgressor is not a punishment, but a way to separate him from society until he can be reinstated. Also I keep in mind the fact that the victim of rape may be learning a karmic lesson, as in the case of a girl, who in a previous life did the same thing what the rapists did to her, they tortured her humiliated her, raped her.

I must say that I know that karma has nothing to do with the law of retaliation or lex talionis .

The premise of the article I wrote is that a rapist is someone aberrated, because I believe that only someone aberrated can do such thing. When I speak about someone aberrated I also mean someone who has the irresistible compulsion to do so.

And if someone is aberrated is because someone is caused that aberration. I can’t imagine that anyone could do that without being an aberree somehow. In any case, if someone rapes without being aberrated it would be an exceptional case that cannot be considered. It would be the same as saying that humans have three, four feet by the fact that there are some people who are born with three or four feet.

Well, Master, I wait for your answers and perhaps this issue is quite complicated, huh?

Ruanel: I'll take a phrase of yours, you’ve said, in other words that what matters is the concept, when you talked about the rapists.

Nobody denies that rape is an act of cruelty. So, we are saying that everyone who commits an act of cruelty is a cruel person. That on one hand, and all the Masters of Light agree with that.

Now, we also agree that even in the least hostile act there is aberration. Therefore, a non-aberrated person, whose reactive mind is controlled because the person is 100% analytical and whose roles of ego don’t manipulate that person, it’s almost impossible that he/she commits a hostile act knowing the difference between good and evil, and knowing the consequences of committing an aberrant act.

However, in both, the spiritual or angelic world, as well as in the physical plane there are thousands of shades of gray, thousands of shades of gray. Then, as well as the majority of the people don’t have the spiritual strength to overcome the engramic impulses, the roles of ego and lesser things, for example, a couple that squabbles and suddenly the young woman slaps the man’s face, but he has enough spiritual strength, to call it somehow, to know how to control himself and not commit more serious acts.

This is perhaps an ironic example, but I think that it’s easy to explain and understand, in your legal jargon there is something called "excessive self-defense" which is condemnable. This means, If a person receives a slap on his face, he pulls out a gun and shots her aggressor four times. That's excessive self-defense, it’s not even considered a homicide because it would absurd to call it excessive self-defense

Interlocutor: Sorry Master, before you continue, the excessive self-defense may also be caused by a clouded mind, overwhelmed by engrams or whatever.

Ruanel: Of course, but I want to get right to the point. There are plenty shades of gray, but although the vast majority of the people embodied on Sun 3 are in the plane 3, and I repeat: although the vast majority of incarnated beings on Sun 3 or in other worlds are in the plane 3, this doesn’t mean that their aberration degree will completely cloud their minds.

That is, they may have a lack of self-control in small things, but when things get worse, generally they know how to control their emotions and they usually will not react excessively in front of certain facts.

Now, those people who coldly, in a premeditated way, they calculated their aggression, and this must be well understood, they plot a robbery like in one of your films, with plans, schedules, those movies in which they say: "Well, we’ll deactivate the laser alarms, cameras etc,"obviously there is a percentage of analysis of more than 95% and a reactive percentage less than 5%.

So that you understand, there is never a 0% of reactivity; there is some percentage of reactivity. Therefore, when saying reactivity it means that there is some degree of aberration, but that aberration is minimal in those cases, there is a great percentage of analysis. I'm talking about those examples related in your books or your movies where thieves steal paintings in museums or they steal millions of dollars or Euros from bank safes, deposit boxes, etc.

Interlocutor: It’s clear.

Ruanel: Well. In the same way, and bridging the gap, and want you to be completely objective and not subjective, don’t be on neither of the parts, whether the victim or the transgressor, but be totally objective, in the same way when the rapist stalks his alleged victim, obviously he will have tachycardia, despair, sexual desires and the reactive state will be much greater than he who has planned to steal paintings from a museum. Do we agree here?

This doesn’t mean that the rapist has no control over his emotions because he does, because he knows, perhaps he has spied on her victim previously so he knows at what time the girls gets out, at what she returns, by which streets she walks etc...

The rapist is going to study if there are neighbors on the corner or if there is a nearby place with a lot of pasture where he can take her... therefore, his power of analysis will be higher and there is a simple rule of three that says that if his power of analysis is higher, his reactive power will be lower, so in many of these cases the rapist responds to primal instincts, but obviously with much of his analytical mind.

This doesn’t mean that he is analytical, but rather that he has much of analytical because he has studied the lifestyle of the girl he is planning to rape: At what time she leaves, at what time she returns, if it’s going to be dark or if it’s wintertime, if there are no neighbors in the area, he is going to plan everything.

A person who analyzes means that he is analytical, not reactive; this doesn’t mean that he is not reactive at all, because the fact that he has tachycardia, sexual desires is because of the primal instincts. Do you understand that?

Interlocutor: Yes, but look Master, and this is what we know about a case in which a woman was raped, filmed, etc., we know the whole thing, one of the rapists who disembodied due to heart problems unrelated to the rape – He didn’t go to the Eighth Sphere, the plane -2, but strangely he went to the plane 2, which means that somehow there was an attenuating circumstance, otherwise, he would have gone directly to the plane -2, because what he did was very serious.

Ruanel: The attenuating circumstance is the minimum or higher percentage of reactive mind. And here we are talking about the spiritual planes.

In the spiritual plane - and I want to clarify very well to those who do not yet know what the spiritual world or angelic world is- in the spiritual planes there are no value judgments. In the spiritual planes there are no value judgments of any kind because one ascends or descends according to the level of vibration, according to the “weight” so-to-speak or the “density” of the ego that each spirit has, and according to the hostiles acts the spirit committed.

Interlocutor: Hold on, Master, you said something very important to highlight. This means- and this concerns me because when I incarnated as Nero- who made the outrages we know and went to the Eighth Sphere or plane -2 in spite of his engrams because he was highly analytical and for that reason he went to the plane -2...

Ruanel: Correct.

Interlocutor: So, he wasn’t 100% reactive, right?

Ruanel: It’s not that I'm trying to take you to my ground because that would be manipulation and I would descend from plane if I tried to manipulate a dialogue, because manipulating a dialogue equals to manipulating a person directly or indirectly. However, since the spoken language is very poor I can say that I'm taking you to my ground, as you say.

Interlocutor: But I’m giving you the reason, Master, with my example I’m going to your ground.

Ruanel: Correct. For that reason we are talking that if there is a higher percentage of analysis, the higher percentage of analysis will densify the intention. I want you to understand that. The hostile act will be denser in front of more analysis, and I don’t say dismissed because a hostile act is never dismissed, but it will somehow- I’m trying to give a word of this example to the vessel’s decoder and it’s difficult for vessel’s decoder to decode it- but somehow there is a sort of apology, an excuse if there is more reactive mind in the person who has committed a hostile act. Yes?

Interlocutor: Yes.

Ruanel: Well. There is no 100% reactive mind and there is no 100% analytical mind. In all cases when a person commits a hostile act there is a percentage of aberration. In other words, I completely agree with what you have given as a preamble at the beginning, in full agreement, but the nuances are missing, the colors are missing. And the colors are, as I said before, if the rapist was driven by his primal instincts = reactive mind, I repeat, if the rapist was driven by primal instincts = reactive mind and he schemes a plot calculating the victim’s behavior, her schedule by using his analytical mind.

If the analytical mind outweighs the reactive mind in the act, and in this case it weighs more because the rapist was planning his aggression, schedules and everything, although he fell prey to his emotions; that basic person could calculate and by using analytically his mind in order to plot the rape, he was in the same place that those thieves who stole a painting from a museum were. Therefore, it is reprehensible for the physical world because, I insist in the spiritual planes there is no prosecution because the spirit ascends or descends according to its own gravitational energy. It is important to clarify that. All this controversy, debate, argument or whatever you want to call it has to do with the physical plane. There are people who were wrongfully convicted on the physical plane and they are dwelling in the plane 5 sublevel 6.

Interlocutor: It is clear, Master. Wait a moment because I want to stare a very important issue. Here I also see a factor that we are forgetting, which is the ignorance, because if Nero had not been so ignorant he wouldn’t have done what he did. Then, as I see it, if a wise man puts his hand on fire and burns it or if the ignorant man also burns his hand. That is, there are acts that have the same consequences no matter what. If one is reactive or not, if he has roles of ego...

Ruanel: No, no. The ignorant man will have attenuating circumstances in the spiritual world, perhaps not in the physical world if we consider the laws of the physical plane, dear Horacio, maybe an ignorant person will have the same or similar sentence compared to a wise person who committed the same hostile act.

Let’s say for example: An ignorant man and a wise person agree to kill a man. The wise man does it because he is eager to inherit a fortune and the ignorant man does it because he is just a fool who accompanies him. If both of them pull the trigger of the gun, the two of them will be sentenced in the same way in the physical plane, maybe not in the spiritual plane because there is no judgment, no value judgments of any kind in the spiritual planes and the ignorance will weigh less in the energy density of the spirit that committed that hostile act because it was committed by ignorance.

In addition, in certain regions, and I read your spiritual concept, your mind I read it, I visualize that you both have spoken about it, there are countries where- I don’t say a common factor, because that would be prejudice- There are societies where they have a tradition of massive rapes, a high percentage of rapes compared to other regions. Do you understand?

Interlocutor: Yes

Ruanel: Well. This doesn’t mean that we have to applaud these beings, but maybe when they disembody they will go to the plane 2, or to the plane 3 due to that ignorance. The plane 3 is a plane of error, but it’s a plane where not so cruel people go, it’s a plane where people go due to several circumstances, they don’t decide which way to take, a plane where they are manipulated by their own roles of ego too much, it’s not like the plane 2, which is a plane of extreme cruelty. And regarding to what you said before, if a person who committed a very hostile act doesn’t go to the plane -2, which is the eighth sphere, but goes to the plane 2, well, look, the attenuating circumstance is minimal, because the plane 2 is a plane of excessive of cruelty where the spirit suffers a lot...

Interlocutor: Well, perhaps he got out of the hook by chance.

Ruanel: The spirit doesn’t suffer as much as in the plane -2, which is a plane where every spirit feels- when I talk about feeling I mean that the spirit feels the conceptual pain of millions of spirits there- It's as if you could feel physically a million toothaches, obviously that you would die instantly because you couldn’t resist that pain, however, since the spirit does not "die" as the physical being does, the spirit must continue feeling that pain until the spirit understands that the pain of the other is important.

Well, I do not want to deviate from the topic. Of course that ignorance weighs in favor; that is, if a young man was raised in a district where there are wood houses, metal roofs, where his mother engaged in prostitution in her own house and his father is a drunkard, where the room has seven children and they see men coming in and out and sometimes these children are going to look for a glass of milk while her mother is exercising prostitution on her bed.

The child sees that action as something normal, normal, it’s logical that a child sees rape as something normal, perhaps because his 12-year-old sister was engaged in prostitution as well, Is that clear?

Then, It doesn’t stop being an attenuating circumstance in the spiritual world, but later on when he grows up and as an 18-year-old boy he stalks coldly a young girl using his radar – and here I am being ironic- by plotting the circumstances if the girls passes by a street at a certain hour, if it’s dark, if she walks around the corner and if there is a vacant lot in that place, plotting if he will threaten her with a gun and satisfy his lower instincts, obviously his analytical mind is prevailing over his reactive mind and that must be condemned in the physical plane. Here I am not talking about compassion as the Master Jesus said because I don’t want to deviate the attention from the main subject.

Interlocutor: That is very clear, though.

Ruanel: I don’t want to deviate from the subject, he must be condemned. If he was aberrated, he was very aberrated due to many circumstances such as his upbringing, his birthplace, what he saw, and obviously if he was reactive, but in that moment he did it with premeditation. Then, it’s condemnable.

Interlocutor: Okay, Master, What you say I fully understand and it’s perfectly clear, let's say that it’s not like a "Divine Justice" if one carries a certain amount of lead bars, which are attached to the body and then one jumps to the water, one will sink more quickly according to the number of lead bars attached to the body, I mean, there is a matter of justice, which is not divine justice because we had clarified previously that nobody judges in the superphysical planes, but…

Ruanel: There is no divine justice, there is consequence.

Interlocutor: Well, then it's a fair thing. This analysis...

Ruanel: In this case, in order that the people who follow these sessions understand well, the expression number of lead bars attached to the body is referred to the number of hostile acts committed before a person disembodies.

Interlocutor: Sure. Perfect. In the case of Nero, obviously He went to the Eighth Sphere, the plane -2 because he was not as ignorant as one might think.

Ruanel: Because ignorance is like a lifesaver; that is to say, If you commit many hostile acts due to ignorance, you get many lifesavers...

Interlocutor: Will they allow me to float?

Ruanel: No, no. When you commit hostile acts, you get many lead bars attached to your body, but ignorance can somehow help you to float, perhaps you will not go to the abyss, but you won’t go to the surface either because there is no apology to a hostile act; You will end up between waters- that is, you won’t go to the Eighth Sphere, but you can end up in the plane 2 or the plane 3 according to the gravity of the hostile acts committed.

Interlocutor: Okay. In other words, Nero did not have many lifesavers, then.

Ruanel: Of course not.

Interlocutor: Okay. This is clear. Everything you say is clear, it's perfect. Now ...

Ruanel: I'll go further before finishing this issue, and remember what you are going to tell me, remember it.

From the same example I gave, there are regions where rape is almost a common act, without prejudice to these societies, there are other countries where- and this is a word I dislike very much- terrorism is a common act because, as this vessel, the Professor Jorge said, there are people whose daughter was a terrorist who blew up herself committing suicide and killing other twenty people of their alleged enemies. An analytical person would cry for her life more than if she were his own daughter, but these people will make a party describing their daughter as a martyr.

You will ask me: "And what about her aberration?" And I would say, "But her aberration is bigger than the Himalaya", the aberration is very high, obviously it is, but you would tell me:"Sure, but according to their customs there as an apology." And I would say yes to that.

It doesn’t mean that this entire terrorism environment goes to the Eighth Sphere, because it goes to there, but there is a lot of ignorance, a lot of ignorance. And there is another thing you did not ponder: The religious fanaticism or bigotry as it happened in the world wars.

Interlocutor: Does religious fanaticism have an excuse somehow?

Ruanel: Yes. It exempts...

Interlocutor: As if it were a lifesaver?

Ruanel: Somehow. Minimally, but it exempts. Religious fanaticism exempts. Due to fanaticism, before the middle of the twentieth century, they slaughtered babies and we are talking about aberrant acts of such magnitude that if I were embodied I would throw up.

We're talking about an extreme act of cruelty. However, and so that the words I use through this vessel don’t be misinterpreted, it doesn’t mean that there is exemption, but a small percentage of apology due to their bigotry or religious fanaticism because it is still ignorance. In your dictionary the words, bigotry and ignorance are not synonymous, but there is a higher correlation, if you understand what I mean, there is a correlation.

Interlocutor: Okay. There is no need to continue with this issue because it is clear enough. Now...

Ruanel: It’s not for you. It’s not for you what I said.

Interlocutor: Okay. Now let's go to the practical issue because everything you said is fine, I accept it and who won’t accept it because it is very clear. Now, when I made the website about the rapists I did it from the standpoint of compassion and I don’t know if it would be common sense or so that we don’t judge all the rapists equally because not all rapists are analytical or condemnable...

Ruanel: No, on the physical plane all of them are condemnable because people would misinterpret what we are talking about. On the physical plane each hostile act is condemnable to a greater or lesser extent. I repeat: if you argue with a partner and that partner slaps your face, the sentences for her action would be: if you have ego you will feel offended, if you're reactive you will slap her face as well or you can stand up and leave. That kind of sentences, if you understand what I mean by sentences.

Interlocutor: Yes, obviously, but I expressed it wrongfully. What I meant is not to judge so easily because we don’t know the circumstances of the rapist or transgressor...

Ruanel: No embodied being -and perhaps I’m responding quickly because I’m reading your mental decoder to speed the session up- no embodied being knows the circumstances of another incarnated being. Therefore no one can prejudge. I repeat: No embodied being knows the circumstances of another person, not even the circumstances of his best friend. Therefore, he/she cannot prejudge, but there is a common factor in someone who commits a verifiable hostile act and I, being incarnated, even not knowing the circumstances I would say: "Yes it is a reprehensible act"

For example, an engineer, in his ignorance, edifies a building of many stories and he doesn’t do it to earn more money or to sabotage, but simply due to his ignorance he chooses bad building materials or weaker beams, then, due to his ignorance, not to save money or to sabotage and the building collapses killing fifty workers. That engineer is an ignorant, but spiritually he is responsible of mass casualties and surely he will go to a denser plane of error. The attenuating circumstance will be his ignorance compared to another engineer who did the same just to save money or save building materials. Do you understand the difference?

However, if I were embodied and my name is John Doe, I, Ruanel, being my name John Doe and watching the television what this engineer did by ignorance... Well, I would say: "Damn, it’s reprehensible." That is what I mean.

Interlocutor: Well, Master. When I wrote the article about the rapists, because I am defending the point of view of the article, it’s not in contradiction with what you say, what I meant is that we should not judge because we have no base to judge or we don’t know the circumstances and thinking about that episode of the Master Jesus, who two thousand years ago said. “He who is without sin cast the first stone”

Ruanel: I'm reading you mental decoder and for that reason I say. On the physical world I might disagree, within the unanimity, perhaps I would disagree with the Master Jesus and the sentence “he who is without sin cast the first stone.”

If I were a family man and I were watching TV and I see that in another neighborhood or city or country there was an aberrant act or rape, I will always make common cause with the father of the victim and never with the rapist. And obviously mentally I will condemn even without knowing the circumstances, but I will not do by stupidity or because I don’t know the circumstances, I would do it because there is a primal instinct in every embodied being that says that a hostile act must be condemned. And I’m not talking about prejudice, a hostile act is not prejudged, a hostile act can be seen directly.

Interlocutor: But Master, the article I wrote has nothing to do with that, I'm not saying that the rapist should not be convicted on the physical plane, but I’m considering the situation from the spiritual point of view, in the sense that we do not know all circumstances, although the rapist is condemned on the physical plane because the law says it so...

Ruanel: I read your concept again and I will explain what I want to convey...

The issue is this: I, spiritual being, the Master Jesus, surely Johnakan and also Morganel will feel compassion for the thetan and the 10% who plays the role of the rapist. We feel compassion! Of course we feel compassion because he is an ignorant man! Obviously we feel compassion! But I won’t move a finger to release him from his sentence...

Interlocutor: But I did not say that in the article, Master!

Ruanel: Perfect.

Interlocutor: That was misinterpreted...

Ruanel: Perfect. That’s for the record then. Of course I have compassion. Even for the couple of police murderers you call Garcia. Of course I have compassion. Because they're ignorant. But I won’t move a finger because there is a 70% of analysis against 30% of reactive mind. And I affirm that now. I, Ruanel, am saying that to you.

Interlocutor: But Was the policeman's death totally chance? Because he was there…

Ruanel: Correct, it was chance. Within the causality and during the struggle of the woman, because she was the one who pulled the trigger twice to kill him, there was a percentage of analysis of 70% and 30% of reactivity. In this reactivity there was no treachery. There's a small excuse: There was fear. The fear of being reduced and apprehended there.

Interlocutor: But there was also an act of despair.

Ruanel: Correct. But there was a 70% of analysis as for committing the crime. That's what I mean.

Interlocutor: But the judges didn’t know that.

Ruanel: Anyways, their actions are condemnable.

Interlocutor: Okay. But if you were on the physical plane and knowing what I know...

Ruanel: I would condemn them equally.

Interlocutor: To life imprisonment?

Ruanel: That would have to be evaluated, but I would condemn them. That's what I want to make clear to finish because I have lucubrated so much that I have worn out tremendously the vessel.

Interlocutor: Now let me ask you something. Who inspired me to write the article? Did I concoct it from the beginning to end? Nobody told me anything?

Ruanel: No. Obviously, your own thetan has given you direction...

Interlocutor: Radael? Was he wrong then?

Ruanel: No, not wrong, but you've put a lot of your own ideas. At least 30% of your own.

Interlocutor: Is it wrong that I put 30%?

Ruanel: No, but there was passion, and you cannot deny that to me because, with the permission of your thetan, I'm inside your mind and I know that there was a 30% of passion. And that passion clouded your mind in some way. The page can be published as long as there are no opinions. Opinions about compassion, forgiveness, aggravating or attenuating factors. That is, the page must be absolutely neutral to publish, "This event happened." Neutral.

Interlocutor: Could any doubt be dispelled with this session?

Ruanel: Yes. If you have nothing more to add on this subject I’d like to conclude with a few words and I thank the vessel’s decoder.

Everyone on the spiritual path, and here I omit the word should because there is no need to put it- I directly say: Everyone on the spiritual path has compassion, but also within compassion has sense of justice- and I talk about embodied beings now - then, in front of a hostile act one evaluates, I speak about those who are on the Path- I’m not talking about ordinary judges- they evaluate each situation -where there may be mitigating or aggravating circumstances. However, in all the cases a hostile act is condemnable, in all the cases. And here I’m not speaking about pity or hatred towards the person, first because a person who is on the Path cannot be involved personally because as well as there is impersonal Love there is also impersonal judgment, and I am talking about the physical plane because in the spiritual plane there is no judgment, personal or impersonal or anything at all.

It’s the spirit who by its own gravity pulls down or up. Then, I, hypothetically or figuratively embodied, in front of an event of this nature, I will not hate these people if I'm the one that has to condemn, but obviously I will condemn them and I will condemn with total compassion, but I will condemn them after all.

For that reason I say that within that context we have talked about, it makes no sense the example of the prostitute who was going to be stoned, it makes no sense, it’s another issue. And I don’t want to deviate from the topic. Any negative situation is to be condemned to the appropriate extent.

For that reason I say that we don’t cross to the excessive self-defense: You get a slap, your analytical mind will try to convince the person that she was wrong. If she is still reactive, stand up and leave. You don’t even have to answer with a slap because you would stoop down to her same level. That is what I mean.

Interlocutor: Okay. To conclude the session if you allow me... I’d like to say a last thing, Could it be?

Ruanel: Well.

Interlocutor: The couple who murdered the policeman, I would not have sentenced to life imprisonment; I would have given them at least ten years, maximum fifteen years.

Ruanel: We cannot be like judges and say how much time they have to be in prison. We cannot do it because it’s not the issue. The issue is whether it’s a condemnable act or not. And yes, it’s condemnable.

Do we have to have compassion for these people? Yes, because they are ignorant people. Are there attenuating circumstances? Perhaps a lot of mitigating factors: Ignorance, bigotry, lifestyle... A person who lives in a more democratic region, which is more respectful to the laws, will have maybe a percentage of rape of 1% and that person will never be adapted to living in a country or a region where the percentage is 70%.

Interlocutor: Master, one thing must be clarified otherwise the whole session will not be helpful. You say that it’s condemnable. Yes, but it’s not the same thing to condemn someone to life imprisonment or death penalty or two years of prison.

Ruanel: Of course. We're not talking about that. It’s not in us to speak about it... Besides, death penalty is aberrant. To us, the Spirits of Light, death penalty is aberrant.

Interlocutor: Okay. It was an extreme example. But it must be clear that...

Ruanel: You're repeating, Horacio, you're repeating. We have said that. It’s not up to us to give a time of sentence. It’s not up to us.

Interlocutor: But is not the same thing, Master...

Ruanel: Of course it’s not the same. That’s why I gave the example that it’s not the same thing if your partner slaps your face and you stand up and hit her head with a baseball bat.

Interlocutor: Okay. But I'm talking about the sentence, Master…

Ruanel: It's exactly the same thing. Everything must be according to the hostile act.

Interlocutor: When we speak of condemnation, we must see the type of sentence too. That's another story.

Ruanel: Everything must be according to the hostile act. Let’s not repeat it. So long Horacio.

Interlocutor: So Long, Master.

THE LORETTO CHAPEL STAIRCASE

2011-12-22T22:55:00.002-04:00

THE LORETTO CHAPEL STAIRCASE

SESSION 12/OCT/2011

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel

Interlocutor: Well Master. I have some question about the well-known staircase at the Loretto Chapel. Are there aliens involved on this mysterious staircase or not?

Ruanel: No, no. Let’s say that everything has been misinterpreted. Speaking about carpentry or in terms of engineering, it’s possible to build a spiral staircase without a base. That it was built in one day as many legends say, it’s not true. This was also distorted as well.

That the carpenter who built the staircase left without asking for payment, it’s somehow true. In fact he didn’t leave without receiving money, but he had lodging, he had taken food and he collected some money. Once he concluded his work, since he was a very religious person, he directly abandoned the place.

Some people said that he was a Joseph himself incarnated, and we know that that’s impossible because once a person had a role; he or she can’t have the same role again. They said mistakenly that the carpenter was Joseph, the adoptive father of Jesus.

Interlocutor: Okay, but somehow he was a very skillful carpenter...

Ruanel: A very skillful carpenter! However it’s not true that he finished his job in one day. That is not true. On the other hand, it’s possible to build a staircase without a base, having just a central support, a spiral staircase. This you can ask to any experienced carpenter.

Interlocutor: But not many people can make that work.

Ruanel: Of course not.

Interlocutor: Well. I have another question regarding The Bilderberg Club. Is it really a wicked organization as some people say?

Ruanel: It's really an organization that handles a lot of money, an organization that has a lot of power. Powerful enough to handle even the politics of many countries. Wicked? I would say that it depends on the point of view that we look at it.

Interlocutor: Were there murders in this organization or nothing like that?

Ruanel: Look, there were assassinations in between. But many of the members of this organization are idealistic people. I mean, if you or this vessel could channel a thetan of one of the members. The thetan would talk to you wonderful things about this organization.

Interlocutor: Well, people also say wonderful things about Bin Laden and George Bush, he he!

Ruanel: It's politics.

Interlocutor: Of course, Master.

Ruanel: One more question because the vessel is already very tired.

Interlocutor: Let's see how about the Comet Elenin?

Ruanel: Elenin is a comet that passes by the Earth at many millions miles away and it does not cause anything, no cataclysm on Sun 3. That some people say that behind or in front of the comet there were alien spaceships is just nonsense, it has no coherence or common sense because the space ships would be detected by telescopes at once.

Why would they expose themselves? The telescopes would aim at the comet. Why would the spaceships appear in front of the telescopes? It is a matter of using common sense and there's no common sense on this story. And for the moment we would end here.

Interlocutor: Okay Master Thank you very much for your answers.

THE CODEX GIGAS

2011-12-11T11:46:00.004-04:00

THE CODEX GIGAS

The Myth about the “Devil’s Bible”

According to a legend, a Benedictine monk broke his vows and committed all kind of sins being condemned one of the most cruel punishments of his time: To be walled up alive.

When the monk heard his sentence a great fear fell upon him and, in order to be forgiven, he promised the monks who judge him, to write in one single night a book that glorifies the monastery and the greatness of human knowledge. The monks agreed to his request and the monk had the opportunity to write the monumental manuscript, however, by midnight he realized that it would be impossible to complete his work in one single night.

Terrified by the punishment that awaited him, he made a pact with the Devil and he offered his soul in exchange for being able to finish the book in the required time.

The Devil agreed to his petition and he was the one who finished the manuscript, later on the monk added a picture of Satan on the page 290 as a sign of gratitude for helping him.

According to the researchers who investigated the manuscript, the Codex Gigas was written by one man, and he could have ended it in about 25 or 30 years.

The truth behind the myth

SESSION 30/NOV/2011

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel

Interlocutor: Let me ask you about a strange book or manuscript, known also as the Devil's Bible or Codex Gigas, not only is it big and heavy (about one meter and a 75 kilograms of weight), but also nobody knows who wrote it or why. Apparently it’s the work of one man, who wrote it quite perfectly, with few mistakes, some researchers say that he could have written it, according to calculations, in 25 to 30 years. There is a legend that says that the Devil wrote it in one day, something that we know it’s just a myth. My questions are:

Who wrote this manuscript? Why was it written? How long did it take to be written? When was it written? And What was its purpose? This manuscript has the characteristic that the Devil is depicted on its pages, The book contains the Old and New Testament, two works of Flavius Josephus, Etymologies of Isidore of Seville, the standard textbook for the teaching of medicine in the Middle Ages known also as Ars medicinae (The art of medicine), Chronica Boëmorum (Chronicle of the Bohemians) XII century Cosmas of Prague and a calendar.

It’s particularly interesting the section that gives testimony of the Bohemian origin and its turbulent story. In the late sixteenth century, the Codex joined the collections of the ruler of Habsburg, Rudolph II. During the Swedish siege of Prague at the end of the Thirty Years’ War in 1648, the manuscript was taken as war booty and moved to Stockholm.

Ruanel: The book was misinterpreted... It was not the work of one man, but the work of a team of religious scholars of past centuries.

Interlocutor: When did they start to write it?

Ruanel: They started in 1325.

Interlocutor: Were Benedictine monks those who wrote this manuscript as people say?

Ruanel: No, not Benedictine monks, they were simply monks, but not from that religious order.

Interlocutor: How many members were part of this group of researchers?

Ruanel: At the beginning there were eight, but then the group was reduced to seven because one died of fever.

Interlocutor: How long did they take to finish this book?

Ruanel: Not too long, exactly seven years and seven months.

Interlocutor: In any case, this manuscript should be classified as a monumental work...

Ruanel: Yes, that’s right... I want to clarify that all subsequent drawings were made practically in this present...

Interlocutor: I don’t understand...

Ruanel: Yes, they are not old... The text is one thing and the pictures are another different thing.

Interlocutor: Ah! So this book was "rejuvenated" like the Piri Reis map was?

Ruanel: Yes, exactly.

Interlocutor: How do you judge this book?

Ruanel: It was an important work, but with many errors.

Interlocutor: You mean that this is not a nearly perfect work as some researchers said?

Ruanel: Yes.

Interlocutor: So, the reason that these researchers said that the work was made by one man was because they wanted to make it somewhat more important?

Ruanel: No, not at all. They mistakenly reached that conclusion.

Interlocutor: Then, the Codex Gigas was the work of a group of monks and there is no mystery about this book?

Ruanel: Yes, there is no mystery.

Interlocutor: How many pages were added to the original manuscript?

Ruanel: They added a few pages, it was changed very little and obviously the original book had no pictures.

Interlocutor: Is there something else to say about this manuscript?

Ruanel: Yes, it’s important to say that the Devil does not exist and the image about him is entirely fanciful.

Interlocutor: Well, I will conclude this matter here.

Related pages:

The Piri Reis Map

The voynich manuscript

Session Lucifer

JESUS 27/JUL/2011

2011-12-05T22:41:00.003-04:00

DIALOGUES WITH THE SOLAR LOGOS

SESSION 27/JUL/2011

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ien-El (Jesus, the current Solar Logos)

What a joy to be here with you. Truly I say to you, dear brethren, that many times the changes in different situations and different expectations at times can exhaust a person. However, I truly say to you that inaction wears out more.

Ien-El is talking to you, the one who you all know as the Master Jesus.

There is something very important: in several physical situations in life, there are moments where you have to make a choice. With the exception of our Father, we all are fallible beings and we can make mistakes while we walk the Path, but a true intention, an intention of Light, dear brothers, will enlighten that Path so that you have a wider view of what you want to learn.

Truly, I say to you that there are always uncertainties due to various reasons; whether occupational, personal, emotional, familial, etc. because the fact that you are embodied makes that there are always crossroads present. The important thing is to have a clear mind, being in awareness, wrapped in Love, and things will have to happen.

I want to be honest, dear brothers, and truly I say to you that the physical plane, as my brother of Light Johnakan always says, is like a gravitational well, and sometimes it pulls us down when we are incarnated. Sometimes we have doubts, as I had them when I was incarnated in Judea. However, truly I say that the soul comforts you. Look at your inner selves, your view will be clear and you will make the best choice.

The past is not bad. And there is no contradiction here. Truly, I say that the past is somehow good because it helps the memory to see which were the right decisions and which were the bad ones, and in some way it helps us as if it were a teaching for future decision makings to be done in this present.

However don't take the past by clinging to it because you will be imprisoned, chained to those negative emotions. Sometimes your same Ego, dear brothers, makes you feel bad when cutting off those ties that bind your wings and don’t allow you to fly to new directions.

As you all say in the physical plane, the guilt complexes are roles of ego. Don’t blame yourselves for wanting to be happy because there is something very important, my dear brethren, and this is to grasp that everything you do in good faith in order to help yourselves first and then be able to reach out to others, as I have taught you in several times, will always be for good.

The past is not bad as long as it serves as an aid to memory; however, it’s negative if it binds you, if it doesn’t allow you to spread your wings.

For verily I say unto you, dear brethren- that you should take a chance to go out, it’s important to take a chance to fly. It’s important to understand that the Path of Light is not easy, but it is not impossible either.

Some words have been mistranslated, because although the Path of Light is a narrow path, it’s not a path of sacrifice. As my dear brother of Light Johnakan says, Service is never sacrifice because Service is joy, whereas sacrifice is pain. And the Father, dear brothers, doesn’t want pain for his children, but He wants Love through enjoyment, through happiness.

However that Happiness is useless if it’s not spread to others, because happiness must not be hoarded. Love should not be hoarded as well. Love expands, as the universe is expanding now, because Love is Light.

And truly I say to you that all those who go forward and lend a helping hand to others will be with me and the Father united.

Thank you. I send to you all my Golden Light.

THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS

2011-11-24T19:14:00.009-04:00

THE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS

SESSION 09/JUN/2010

Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Jesus (Current Solar Logos)

Master Jesus: I’m here gathered with you, dear brothers. Truly I say to you that all the acquired knowledge is useful as long as it’s used in terms of Love. Truly, I say to you that Service must be done in a completely selfless way, but is very important to clarify that the true selflessness lies on pure Love, on impersonal Love, on the Love which is offered completely, a Love that has no shortage due to the simple fact that it doesn’t need, a Love that is not mean because it’s offered one hundred percent.

On the other hand, dear brothers, it’s important to understand that curiosity is a guarantee for the investigation and that it’s not wrong that you investigate on the physical plane for the benefit of your neighbor and, obviously, on your own benefit.

I perceive a lot of indifference in many beings, who live their lives routinely, without the passion. Brothers, you will tell me that passion is part of emotion as well. Johnakan, my beloved disciple, said that emotion is part of the ego. On the physical plane, sometimes a spark is needed to ignite a flame.

In the flame of Love, even being the love I’m referring to- pure feeling- perhaps that spark is emotion, but it doesn’t mean that the flame that is lit afterwards contains emotion. Then. That passion is what overcomes the inertia of procrastination, of reluctance, disinterest. Everything that is balanced is okay.

Interlocutor: Okay. Master, don’t forget that this is an important psychoauditing session and it would be important that we take advantage of the time we have. If you agree, we would go directly to the psychoauditing

Master Jesus: Right.

Interlocutor: We would go to the beginning of the engram related to the crucifixion. You will see where the incident starts and we will go through it. You already know what a psychoauditing is: I beg you to tell us all the details in order to eliminate not only the conceptual engrams, but also because it’s a historical fact.

Master Jesus: When I was a child, in that incarnation as Jesus, I had a lot of knowledge, but I was very cautious. I remember when I met those people who you know as "the doctors of the law." I showed my human side to them; first of all, I never tried to be arrogant. I always kept - as you say- a low profile. It’s not true that I confront them; I simply held an opinion about my point of view. And they were admired by the fact that in spite of my short age I could talk about so elevated topics.

Interlocutor: How old were you?

Master Jesus: I was eleven to twelve years old. I had many concerns and my biological mother, Mary, advised me a lot. She was a simple spirit with so much love, but with too much attachment, and his spouse, Joseph, loved her in a beautiful way, even knowing that I was not his biological child.

Joseph accepted me and raised me as much or more than his own children he had from a previous marriage, obviously before he became a widower, because he knew that there was a lot of 'money' in me to take advantage from.

Interlocutor: What you are saying, Master, Does it have charge or it’s a prologue?

Master Jesus: A prologue because he had a feeling that I was destined for something more than being a carpenter. Joseph, in his lovely availability, taught me the best he could his occupation. And I learned it as well as he did. With mother I was different because we had talks about love. She was very- I don’t say strict-, but she was very attached to her faith and we had great debates- sometimes we had strong arguments. But I, being small, had no authority to argue with her.

I explained to her my point of view, telling her that the image I had about God was different. Many times I told her:

- Mother, God created us, but it’s not true that we have been created in his image and likeness. God has created us, and we are part of His manifestation. God is the purest Love that can exist, and God does not judge us or punishes us. That hell you talk about, I don’t accept it from your point of view.

Mother used to tell me:

- You're too young to understand.

- No. We all understand since we are born, ever since we acquire vocabulary and our personality is developed. This is not our only life.

- But what are you talking about?

- There is a wheel of incarnations, Mother. It's like something is telling me that. I have not a very clear idea, but it's like my own spirit is telling me that when we die we can be reborn ... Because we have places…

The years passed by. I’m not going to narrate the experiences I've had in other regions.

Interlocutor: It's essential to go to the incidents that have charge, Master.

Master Jesus: When I encountered, after some time, my cousin John at the Jordan river...

Interlocutor: John the Baptist?

Master Jesus: Yes, at the Jordan river he poured water over my head. At that moment I felt a mental clarity, a beautiful Energy that invaded my whole body, and filled my arteries of life ... My understanding was enlarged.

Interlocutor: Like an expansion of consciousness?

Master Jesus: Let’s say that it’s like I embraced everything and that's when I channeled the Christ Energy. This Christic Energy that gave me the understanding and made me feel certain apprehension. There was like a sort of fear to exposure. I felt more exposed when I was eleven or twelve years old, when I talked to the "doctors of the law", but in turn, there was like a flame inside myself- that compelled me to reveal the Word. But I needed ears.

Interlocutor: How old were you when you were baptized?

Master Jesus: I was significantly older. I was about thirty-one years old at that time.

Interlocutor: You were closer to the crucifixion. Please, Master. Continue.

Master Jesus: I was looking for and talked to many people, explaining to them what the Kingdom of the loving Father truly was. There were about thirty people who followed me, but later on some of them didn’t want to leave their jobs or family commitments, or they were too attached to their families, they were staying. Finally only twelve people followed me, those who you all know through the scriptures.

Several women have also followed me, but due to that separatist society, they were removed from these writings. Many women have worked on behalf of the Father's Word through my voice. There was also a famous thirteenth apostle, who was seeking to separate the waters...

Interlocutor: Yes. We know.

Master Jesus: ...due to his ego. However, nothing was going to stop me to spread the Word. And I had internal fights due to the same expanded understanding because, although we know that fortune-telling doesn’t exist, there was an assumption.

Interlocutor: We could say speculation.

Master Jesus: Then, I had the apprehension of the future -although not exactly, and I knew what I was exposed to in a region so fundamentalist, where there were religious people that would call me an outcast if I missed a comma of the word.

On the other hand, there were the Romans, whose only interest was to maintain the order because if there was any insurgency, the leaders were going to be punished. Then, at the slightest turmoil or any insurrection in any village, they imposed order by the sword.

Interlocutor: So it was a kingdom of terror, in some way. Did they live in fear?

Master Jesus: Not so much because there were villages where people lived quietly, where the laws were obeyed, paying taxes etc. And there were even publicans who were keeping the accounts...

Interlocutor: Was there like a danger for those people who were separated from the traditional life-style of the region.

Master Jesus: That was me.

Interlocutor: Exactly. Master, before you continue I have a question: How tall were you?

Master Jesus: I was 1.82 mts. tall [six feet]

Interlocutor: Ah! You were a tall man! All right.

Master Jesus: I had a dark complexion, brown hair and aquiline nose.

Interlocutor: When you say dark complexion Do you mean black?

Master Jesus: No.

Interlocutor: Dark-complexioned. A tone between copper and... Well, Dark complexion. All right. Go on, Master.

Master Jesus: Dear brother, As the months and years passed by we were consolidating and conveying the Word. I Remember what you all call "The Last Supper" I knew that Judas had so much resentment because he had a physical ideal...

Interlocutor: A material realm.

Master Jesus: He wanted to organize an uprising, to such point that many historians see me as a social organizer. I’m Sorry to tell them that my desire was that they understand that there was a Kingdom beyond the physical realm. If through that word many took it as a social organization- That’s their problem, but that was not my desire.

It’s true that I had several arguments with Mary, my mother, because she didn’t have the expansion of consciousness I had, but she had the mother's intuition that I was in danger. However, I was exposing myself to that and I knew that there was a limited time, as you would say today, in which the gunpowder would explode.

Interlocutor: Don’t forget to go to the charge, Master.

Master Jesus: Judas left and several of the apostles called me telling me:

- He knows Caiaphas and many people of the Sanhedrin. We've heard him mutter.

- I know, dear brothers.

- But, Lord, then why…?

- Because everything that has to be, will be. Because it’s written.

Peter told me

- Nothing is written, Master, everything is to be done.

- Simon, I understand what you mean, but my very understanding tells me that what I must do is to transcend.

I feel a pressure in my right arm and the Little John tells me:

- But Master, you taught us that Service is transcendent and not sacrifice.

- Oh, little one! How many reprimands I have given you over these years? You're not a 15-years-old boy... You're a boy of about eighteen years old, and you're a man. If you understand that, you also have to understand my point of view. Do not be so attached.

- I have no attachment, Rabbi. I have love.

- It’s Not enough, dear John- if you have love only for me. Look at your brothers; look at the brothers outside, look at those who stretch out their hands to help others. They are also your neighbors.

- I know, Master, I know. I learnt by heart the parable of the Samaritan; your neighbor is the one who raises the fallen.

- Apply that, John. If you have Love, that Love should not have a direction.

I remember being in the garden of Gethsemane. It was late. John wanted to stay with me. I let loose his hand of my arm.

- Let me think, -I said-

- I want to be with you.

- Let me think. Go and rest a while, like the others are doing.

- I Just don’t want to sleep. I want to be here.

- I need to rest. If you consider me your Lord, listen to me. Lie down.

And I stayed alone leaning against a large rock. I heard footsteps. I thought it was John, but it was Peter.

- Master, I’m convinced that at any moment Judas is going to show up along with the Sanhedrin. They want to arrest you. They are going to lock you up and they are going to execute judgement upon you. We can cross the Jordan river and go to Damascus.

- It’s true - I thought- I know what the Romans do and I know what the torture means. But no!

I grabbed him by the lapels and I yelled at him:

- Go away Satan! Go Away! He stared at me shocked and he walked away. But I didn’t say that to him. I said that to myself, to my ego, the ego that was struggling against my sanity, my ego...

Interlocutor: You were losing strength.

Master Jesus: ... My ego was making me think that Peter was right. I contacted with my father, mentally.

Interlocutor: ABBA?

Master Jesus: I went to the higher expansion and in my mind I felt a concept. I felt ABBA and I asked him:

- What is your will?

And ABBA responded to me:

- It’s not my will, it’s your will.

- What is my will?

- You yourself know that.

I felt selfish just because I had no answer from ABBA. Then I contacted with my Father, the one you all call Eon, and I asked him the same question:

- What are the steps that I should follow? What should I do? I’m really scared because I have to suffer on the physical plane.

And Eon answered me the same thing

- It's your will.

- But, Father, I’m part of you.

- It's your will.

- All right. If you think that it’s my will, I accept it. Then “Thy will be done, not mine.”

- But son, that is somehow wanting to get away from your responsibility. That would suggest that I’m ordering a sacrifice from your part and you know that there is Free Will. It’s your will to be done, not mine.

- I'm sweating, Father. I feel my clothes wet... I think I hear footsteps and voices in the distance... Is it my imagination? Father!

But my same role of ego was preventing me from contacting with the Father. And of course it wasn’t his will, it was mine. It wasn’t "Thy will be done, not mine," but the opposite: "It was my will and not the will of my Father"

Interlocutor: Did you sweat drops of blood?

Master Jesus: No.

Interlocutor: Then. That's a mistake from the Bible that mentions drops of blood?

Master Jesus: At that time I had hypertension, heart-throbs, tachycardia and that could have affected some capillary veins. And yes, on my forehead there were small drops.

Interlocutor: Yes I understand.

Master Jesus: I felt again a pressure in my right arm and I clung to the hand of John, who told me, Rabbi, you have your forehead...

- Yes, John. -And we hugged each other- John, you have too much to walk. Don’t be like the others who deviate from my path. You have to continue with the mission.

They all were awake. Finally Judas came along with the Sanhedrin. There was an attempt of resistance on behalf of Peter, but I stopped it and I went with them.

I said in another occasion that Peter didn’t deny me three times. He’s got to deny me six times, but he was an embodied human being. And, as the Thetan of my beloved disciple says: "The physical plane is like a gravitational well that pulls you down," I understand and since I understand I don’t judge.

The trial was that nobody wanted to take responsibility for me or have anything to do with me. Pontius Pilate sent me away and they sent me back again with him. Finally, in the balcony where the crowd chose Barabbas to be released - All of this I knew it, not because of divination, but deep inside myself- then the flogging...

Interlocutor: Tell us that incident thoroughly, Master, in order to remove all the conceptual charge.

Master Jesus: In my whole body I was well-fed and well-cared for, I didn’t know about diets. In meetings, around the bonfire, I used to drink wine, I ate lamb. I was not in favor of a particular diet, but my body was strong.

I could endure the pain because I elevated my thoughts to the Father. At times, those lashes on my back, chest, arms, legs- where pieces of metal tore my skin and flesh - made me pass out several times. And I woke up when they threw a bucket of cold water on me...

Interlocutor: How long did the flogging last?

Master Jesus: Hours.

Interlocutor: Ah! Were they long hours?

Master Jesus: Hours. It’s very hard for me to narrate it.

Interlocutor: It’s important that you do it in order to discharge it.

Master Jesus: I can only say that on my way to the Golgotha, carrying the log, my mind was so elevated that I almost felt no physical pain. However, I had a tremendous emotional pain for those who were looking at me from the sides of the road; they looked at me with scorn and contempt, they were the same people that long ago made a path of flowers for me.

Interlocutor: Did they spit in your face?

Master Jesus: I had spit all over my face and my shoulders. I looked at them. That also brought me engrams of misunderstanding, even similar as the physical pain:

Why don’t you understand? Who do you want to pay lip service to? Do you think the Romans will applaud you for throwing stones at me? By showing those faces? They are faces! The Romans will not care about you!

All this I was thinking in my mind while my eyes were filled with tears...

Interlocutor: Master, I will ask you a question: What was the purpose, from your point of view- that all what was happening to you, all that suffering? Did you have the idea that your doctrine was going to transcend really?

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: Was that the particular reason?

Master Jesus: Through the writings I knew that in ancient times there were many prophets- or whatever you want to call them- who transmitted different words, although that was not what I conveyed to my brothers, I knew that they didn’t transcend just because their lives were ordinary...

Interlocutor: Routine lives.

Master Jesus: I wouldn’t say routine. Their lives were rich, but once they disembodied their words were lost.

Interlocutor: They didn’t transcend. I understand. Go on, Master. It was a clarification, nothing more. Please continue. They're spitting upon you, throwing stones at you, mocking at you...

Master Jesus: I’ll speak about the nails. It doesn’t matter if I skip. The nails in my wrists, contrary to what many people think, they almost did not hurt me. The nails in my feet...

Interlocutor: Was there a single nail in your feet?

Master Jesus: Yes, because They put one foot on the other.

Interlocutor: Did you have a wood block for your feet?

Master Jesus: Yes, I had a support.

Interlocutor: Okay. Was it a common cross?

Master Jesus: No. It was a log which they stood up and formed what you call a cross. At no time I carried a cross.

Interlocutor: Let's see, what kind of cross it was? I don’t know if you perceive it...

Master Jesus: It was a cross...

Interlocutor: Because there is a doubt... Let’s see...

Master Jesus: It was a large piece of log nailed to a horizontal beam...

Interlocutor: Okay, I have a drawing here.

Master Jesus: Sure. But the horizontal beam was not continuous with the other beams of the other two people who were at each side. The logs were independent; that is, there were real crosses.

Interlocutor: Three crosses.

Master Jesus: There were three independent crosses. It was not a long horizontal log with three vertical beams.

Interlocutor: I understand. But in this framework that I have here... It seems that the log was protruding.

Master Jesus: The log was protruding...

Interlocutor: I ask it because I don’t know if...

Master Jesus: I'll explain it to you, dear brother.

Interlocutor: All right, because there are many doubts about this issue...

Master Jesus: The horizontal log was slightly shorter than the half of the long vertical beam. The long vertical beam was nailed in front of the horizontal log, not behind, and it’s not true that the log was embedded. They wouldn’t take the trouble to embed the log...

Interlocutor: I understand. But it was protruding, we would say.

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: It wasn’t flat.

Master Jesus: No.

Interlocutor: Okay. Master, How much distance was there between your feet and the ground? One meter? Two meters? Do you understand the question?

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: These are details that may not have anything to do with the engram but...

Master Jesus: Approximately one meter.

Interlocutor: Ah! One meter.

Master Jesus: It wasn’t so high. About one meter.

Interlocutor: I asked this because there are pictures where you appear very high.

Master Jesus: No. the beam was a stake of just over three meters. Think: if the log would have been longer, the log should have measured four meters and it wasn’t so long.

Interlocutor: I understand. Were you completely naked?

Master Jesus: No. I had what you call a loincloth.

Interlocutor: A loincloth. All right.

Master Jesus: I had a crown of thorns.

Interlocutor: Okay. Perfect. Go on Master. They hanged you on the cross...

Master Jesus: I’m sorry to disappoint you, but there is not so much to tell.

Interlocutor: No, the important thing is...

Master Jesus: The suffering, the lashes, the skin was dripping blood... My face was almost of vermilion color due to the blood of my forehead. It is a repetition, because for hours it was a similar punishment. What hurt me the most was the big nail in my feet.

Interlocutor: Okay. I mean, the wood block on which your feet were supported had the purpose that you don’t fall or be torn? Or was it some kind of torture?

Master Jesus: It was there to support me.

Interlocutor: I guess that the more you would last on the cross, the more suffering you would have.

Master Jesus: No. Once I had the nails in both wrists and the large thick nail in my feet...

Interlocutor: Were there three nails?

Master Jesus: Yes, they took out the ropes, because first they had me strapped the forearms and a there was a single string on my feet.

Interlocutor: But obviously you made no attempt to escape.

Master Jesus: No. I had no physical or mental strength to do so.

Interlocutor: Master. How long did it take you to disembody?

Master Jesus: Approximately three hours.

Interlocutor: Ah! Not an hour and a half as many people say.

Master Jesus: Approximately three hours.

Interlocutor: Anyway I understand that there were some people that have lasted up until nine days... or not?

Master Jesus: No. With such torture, no.

Interlocutor: So, it’s said that some people lasted four days. Or not?

Master Jesus: It depends on the torture and it depends on the physical condition.

Interlocutor: But, in general, you lasted for three hours because you had suffered the flogging?

Master Jesus: And due to the blood loss...

Interlocutor: Okay. Master, which was the biggest torture? The asphyxia?

Master Jesus: The biggest torture was in my whole body.

Interlocutor: Let's see, Which part of your body was causing you more suffering?

Master Jesus: My feet, mainly.

Interlocutor: Even more than the asphyxia?

Master Jesus: Yes, my feet, mainly.

Interlocutor: I’m surprised because I thought that asphyxia was the most terrible thing.

Master Jesus: I felt like a weakness but I was conscious.

Interlocutor: Were you lucid?

Master Jesus: Yes, as for my understanding...

Interlocutor: Were you three hours lucid?

Master Jesus: No. Almost three hours lucid. My eyes were closed because I was trying to give myself to the Father and I couldn’t, due to the crowd, the shouting, the laughing...

The laughter hurt me, but not –as you would say- to an egotistical part of me, I felt pain because I didn’t understand their misunderstanding. And take it as I speak from my heart: I’m another son of Eon, but in that moment, since I was transmitting the Word of the Father, I felt that if I left I was going to leave them like orphans. And that made me feel bad. Then I thought of my mother, she had little time, but still...

Interlocutor: Was she present there?

Master Jesus: Yes.

Interlocutor: Who were present with you at that moment Master? Peter?

Master Jesus: John was there. The only one of my followers.

Interlocutor: Why?

Master Jesus: Because some of them were afraid...

Interlocutor: Afraid to be captured.

Master Jesus: ... Afraid to be imprisoned and others...

Interlocutor: Let's see... Mary Magdalene, your mother Mary and John were there. The three?

Master Jesus: And another Mary, who had offered me hospitality in her house and who had scented me. She was also there.

Interlocutor: Master, I have a question ...

Master Jesus: And I told John to take care of my mother.

Interlocutor: Could you talk at that time, in spite of the suffering?

Master Jesus: With softly voice. That was at the beginning, practically. And John nodded. This is not to detract my three siblings, but they had their commitments, and I felt that… I could understand that John could take care of her better in the few years remaining she had. And I know he did.

Interlocutor Master, at some time you left your body as if it were a kind of astral trip?

Master Jesus: No.

Interlocutor: At no time? Were you clung to the suffering. And the cramps?

Master Jesus: Tremendous cramps. The muscles, which then became like rocks, the tendons... I wanted to move and I couldn’t. I wanted to fight and I couldn’t. Fight the pain, I mean, not to get away from what was happening to me.

Interlocutor: Okay. How about the spear in your side. Were you already dead when the spear stabbed your side?

Master Jesus: No. That was almost at the end.

Interlocutor: Did you feel that?

Master Jesus: Yes.

Interlocutor: Master, what conceptual pain is remaining from the flogging and the three hours you were hanged on the cross? What pain is left?

Master Jesus: I copy a phrase from your language; I have worked very hard at conceptual level. And we've had conceptual debates on the subject with Johnakan. In other words- there was not a great charge... The greatest charge was because I was leaving my dear brothers helpless, as if they were like orphans without a father –between quotation marks-

Interlocutor: I mean, in spite of the physical suffering, the greatest suffering was caused by the forced abandonment you were going through.

Master Jesus: Yes. Absolutely. That’s the greater engram, much greater than my suffering, which was very much, and you know that.

Interlocutor: Yes. Is this whole episode about the crucifixion completely free of conceptual charge? Is there anything left, Master? Because we can review...

Master Jesus: No. I have no conceptual charge.

Interlocutor: So, let's see... The little charge you had, Was it discharged with this story?

Master Jesus: Yes, it's free. With the lack of protection that continues on this world and the misunderstanding of what the true Light is. I cannot understand why sometimes there are so close-minded spirits that don’t understand that stretching their hands out to help others and transmitting the Energy of Love, we all can live better, in peace solidarity, kindness, serving each other. It's so easy...

I don’t understand the meanness, intolerance, misunderstanding, the wickedness, the desire to dominate... Your lives on the physical plane are so tiny, limited. There are no powers, no conquests; the conquest has to do with oneself. Truly, I say to you that conquering oneself is better. Brother, I want to leave...

Interlocutor Master, hold on a moment. I just have a question to ask you. How many Psychoauditing sessions will be necessary to remove all your conceptual charge?

Master Jesus: It’s not necessary, dear brother. I really tell you that it's not necessary. This lack of understanding is not an engram; it’s an incomprehension that any good person can understand. This vessel that channels me, who is the 10% of my beloved Johnakan, also understands that a smile, a fresh dialogue and to stretch the hand out to help other people is more fruitful than the barren indifference.

Interlocutor: Well, Master. Listen to me just one moment... When you disembodied. Can you tell me what you felt as a 10%?

Master Jesus: I have never thought of myself as a 10%, in the sense of attachment to a role on the physical plane.

Interlocutor: I was referring rather to your descent to the Eighth Sphere.

Master Jesus: I intentioned that.

Interlocutor: Before you disembodied?

Master Jesus: No. I disembodied at the moment of my disincarnation.

Interlocutor: So, you disembodied and you felt yourself as a 100% spirit...

Master Jesus: Yes, and as 100% spirit I wanted, somehow, to understand the suffering of the beings dwelling in the Eighth Sphere, where each one of them feel the conceptual pain of the others.

Interlocutor: Okay, Did you have that need as a 100%?

Master Jesus: As a 100% spirit.

Interlocutor: Before of that you never went to the Eighth Sphere?

Master Jesus: No.

Interlocutor: But if a spirit wants it, it can go to the Eighth Sphere like that?

Master Jesus: I had the intention, and I understand humbly that the Father – who in our understanding created all the laws that cannot be broken- somehow granted my petition...

Interlocutor: So, when you descended to the Eighth Sphere, Was it an exception?

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: A big exception?

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: So, my Thetan, Radael, can’t do that?

Master Jesus: No. If you went to the Eighth Sphere was due to your behavior...

Interlocutor: Is there any other case you know about in which the Father also granted the descent to the Eighth Sphere?

Master Jesus: Yes In another world, and in other circumstances.

Interlocutor: Okay. Your descent to the Eighth Sphere was in a 100%?

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: Now, Did you know that while you were there you could have left that place at any time?

Master Jesus: Yes

Interlocutor: How long did you stay in the Eighth Sphere?

Master Jesus: I didn’t measure the time because at that time I sought to convey Light. I wanted to grasp the spiritual concept of the spirits in there, and explain to them that only by perceiving the suffering of the others they could escape from the pain and ascend to the Light... But my concept was not understood.

Interlocutor: Okay. You were in the Eighth Sphere as a 100%, but Was your body dead? Or was it still alive?

Master Jesus: My body was clinically dead, as you understand what clinical death is; otherwise I couldn’t be a 100% spirit. Understand that.

Interlocutor: Okay.

Master Jesus: The fact that with a technology from another world I was resurrected, it’s another story.

Interlocutor: We could say that It was like reincarnating.

Master Jesus: Sure.

Interlocutor Master, before you leave I would like to state that while you were narrating your story, I had many questions to ask, just in case the people who will listen this session perhaps say that I didn’t ask many things. However, I didn’t ask because I didn’t want to interrupt your narration. I wanted to make that clear. I mean, Could we ask those questions in another session?

Master Jesus: Right.

Interlocutor: Okay, Master.

Master Jesus: I give you all my Light, my dear brother.

Interlocutor: Thank you, Master. See you later.

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