“The Great Masonic Secret finally unveiled”
Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.
Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel.
Interlocutor: Is that you, Master Ruanel?
Ruanel: Yes it’s me. I see that you have been working too much.
Interlocutor: Yes, as a matter of fact I was because this issue about Freemasonry which was surely suggested by you in my causal body, has left me totally perplexed. I have studied all the documents that I have been able to gather from the internet and I could not figure out which is the famous Masonic secret.
Ruanel: We have suggested you that it is important to reveal that what seems many times transcendent in the end it’s not.
Interlocutor: Is this the case of Freemasonry?
Interlocutor: To clear up my mind, we will suppose that you are a freemason of the highest rank and I will ask you everything about Masonry. Do you agree?
Ruanel: Yes, perfectly.
Interlocutor: The question naturally is: Which is the final purpose of Freemasonry? I already tell you that it doesn't seem coherent to me when the Catholics say that Freemasonry is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy Christianity.
Ruanel: There are freemasons in most of the western countries and being freemasons doesn't prevent them to practice their religious rituals, for that reason saying that they are against the Church or they seek to destroy it, it is something completely absurd.
Freemasons take care of politics more than religion. They take care about political power more than anything else. In the XIX Century, in several countries of America, there were many freemasons who were inside the leadership of governments.
Even in the emerging countries where there were still viceroys, at the same time as government boards were made, I’ll put the example of Argentina, many representatives were freemasons and they didn't have any other function more than believe that there was a secret brotherhoood inside that order.
This belief was increased because each member only knew a part of the entirety.
Even the one who directed each leadership said that one could not know all the members because it was a security measure to avoid that if some freemason was arrested, he could not accuse to whom he didn't know.
Let‘s say that if inside a political leadership there were hundred members I, as a follower, knew twenty of them, another knew other twenty, but in fact, not everyone knows each other but only a part of them.
This kind of maneuvers like the one I mentioned strengthened the belief that they were part of a secret brotherhood.
Interlocutor: But what was the reason?
Ruanel: There was no base, no proposal, no message. It is like those secret brotherhoods of the faculties or Universities of the United States that simply make student pacts with alleged demons, but if one talks to some of them and he asks who are the others, they will say sincerely that they don't know them.
Some of them wear masks, others hide themselves wearing hoods, they don't know each other and there is no message of any kind or nothing of that sort.
And all these attitudes create a mystery where there is none.
Interlocutor: Are you telling me that the only thing there is about Masonry, and be worth the paradox, is emptiness?
Ruanel: Correct, and the only thing that fills that emptiness is the mystery.
Interlocutor: Master, if I was perplexed before the session, I admit that now, I’m even more perplexed. Who is the maximum chief of Freemasonry?
Ruanel: There isn’t a single person that commands, but rather in each country there is a representative.
Interlocutor: But someone has to be the maximum leader!
Ruanel: No, because they shift
Interlocutor: And what is the purpose of Masonry from the point of view of leadership?
Ruanel: Power and money.
Interlocutor: Power and money? Isn’t there any other purpose?
Ruanel: There is no other purpose more than Power and money.
Interlocutor: But don't they speak that they adore to the Architect of the Universe and all those things?
Ruanel: Those are grandiloquent but hollow phrases, without any content. We know as a group - I refer to Grupo Elron - how many associations, how many sects, how many organizations give messages completely rhetorical, totally cursory in content.
And not only does Freemasonry give grandiloquent messages but they also bestow grandiloquent titles.
Interlocutor: I understand. As I see it, the purposes of Masonry are completely material and they have nothing to do with the destruction of the Catholic Church, Is that correct?
Ruanel: If the Catholic Church interfered with the organization, they would try to discredit it, only as a mean of defense, but not to destroy it.
The destruction or even the attempt of destruction of an institution like the Catholic Church, it would be counter-productive because it would transform it into a symbol of martyrdom and it would attract more faithful people, as a result, it would grow more. On the other hand the aggressor(s) would be subject to insults.
Let’s see an example: Let’s suppose that a concealed order detonates an explosive device in a temple of a certain important religious confession in a city also important, automatically everybody would pity that religious confession and it would get more followers.
Interlocutor: And it would transcend...
Ruanel: Yes, it would transcend, but because of pity, in the sense of “poor people”, “look at what they have done to them”, “they only wanted to preach the truth” Either the Catholic Church or any other religion, it would be in a better position if they attack it.
For that reason, I repeat that the destruction of the Catholic Church is only a myth, increased by the paranoia of some priests that see persecutions everywhere.
Interlocutor: Are the rites of Masonry as silly as they depict them?
Ruanel: Of course. The only function they have is to dazzle those who are new in Freemasonry.
Interlocutor: Do freemasons realize in a moment that what they learned is an entire silliness and they leave the organization?
Ruanel: Except for rarely exceptions, they don't realize it. I will give you an example. There is a Protestant order which was created in the XIX Century called “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. This order,- and this is not a prejudice but a reality- , it’s composed of obstinate people, fools, cretins, silly people, close-minded people and all the adjectives that you could imagine to describe them, because all the meetings are a copy of the others. They remind me to engrams: A=A=A=A.
Interlocutor: I understand the irony perfectly.
Ruanel: Well, the meetings of freemasons are the same: the first is similar to the second, which is similar to the third and so on. Notice that if a Jehovah’s Witness, follower, brother, or whatever they call to themselves, goes during ten years to the church, he will have the same "wisdom" at the end that the one he had at the beginning. And even though he has gone up step by step, in spite of being pastors, they continue being close-minded poeple and ignorants.
Essentially, Freemasonry is exactly the same thing. Because they themselves start believing what they are saying. For example, If I were incarnated and I sell you something, I am so convinced of what I’m selling you that I myself believe it.
Interlocutor: Let’s see if I understand the concept. Are you telling me that they know that everything is a fraud but they end up convincing to themselves that it is true?
Ruanel: Exactly! It is similar to a salesman who sells a stain remover and he knows that it doesn't work, but from selling it and highlighting its qualities, he ends up believing that the stain remover he sells is a true marvel.
Interlocutor: But Isn’t that an engrama?
Ruanel: Of course it is an engram! Self-persuasion is in fact an auto-implant.
Interlocutor: It is truly amazing. Here I have a writing criticizing Masonry of a cardinal called Jose Maria Caro Rodriguez that, beyond the prejudices it might have, and eve though he is not able to decipher the famous Masonic secret, I find it quite lucid and it guesses right the evaluation. Is it correct?
Ruanel: Correct. In general it is fine, but remove the paranoiac part that says that the purpose of Masonry is the destruction of the Catholic Church. That’s nonsense.
Interlocutor: I want to insist about the question: Is Freemasonry similar to the promotion that an employee have in a public administration who starts cleaning the bathrooms and then he is promoted achieving the charge of a boss and he continues being the same ignorant that he was when he entered?
Ruanel: The human beings are so conditioned that if you take a clerk who has his own desk and you change a stapler from its place, if he doesn't notice what was changed of place, he will feel bad-tempered the whole day because he will notice that something is bad on his desk, but without knowing exactly what is wrong.
The human beings are so conditioned to such point on one hand, and on the other hand they are so asleep that they don't realize that; first, it doesn't matter if the stapler has been changed of place, because it’s not an issue, and second, if they were more alert they would know that was changed of place.
But while they don't perceive the fact that the stapler was changed of place, and they do care that everything be tidy as they left it, the person feels bad.
Translate this to the jargon of staggering that freemasons have, they are taught in such way that as they go ascending in grades they feel more and more important, without realizing that the building they are ascending to is made of smoke and not of solid stone as they believe it.
Interlocutor: But while they ascend of grades, Don’t they contact with personalities of the world who are masons and who they didn’t know before?
Ruanel: That is one of the incentives. Imagine, I am incarnated and I’m an insignificant person, after swearing solemnly that I will keep the secret, suddenly they do ascend me of grade and I am contacted with a personality of the world of businesses who is also freemason, I end up being at the same level of that alleged equality. How won't my ego be flattered of being freemason?
Interlocutor: Do those terrible oaths exist as they say? I mean to those oaths that speak of things like “that they cut my tongue if I talk about what I have sworn not to reveal” and things like that.
Ruanel: Not at the present time. Before yes. Today nobody is as silly as to be convinced of keeping silence about something like that. Besides, journalism exists. If I am freemason and for some reason I want to reveal their secrets without being discovered, nothing prevents me from talking to a journalist through Internet so that these secrets be exposed to the public.
Interlocutor: Is it true that those who began as freemasons after a while when they realize that they had been deceived, they abandoned the organization?
Ruanel: No, I repeat what I already said: it is very difficult that they discover the deceit because they are conditioned.
Interlocutor: But what is the reason that some people left the organization?
Ruanel: They left it because that order stopped attracting them, because they had changed it for other hobbies or because they had simply decided to be devoted more to their families or their professions, etc.
Besides, when they are young they also abandon the organization when they realize that the economic rewards they had promised them don't appear, and things like that.
Don't forget that the fishhook of Masonry is in fact to enthuse the applicant with social status and economic rewards he would get in the organization. In this sense they don't have any obstacle to put as an example to someone who is in a higher social status and point him out as a freemason explaining to him that he is in that level because he is a freemason.
As this is unreal, the boy who is enrolled in Freemasonry when he was twenty-two years old, when he reaches the age of twenty-seven, he sees that nothing has changed that his problems are still there and he continues working as an employee everyday in the same position, then he simply leaves the organization.
Interlocutor: And can he abandon the organization without any problem?
Ruanel: In a case like this, yes, because it is somebody harmless that won't harm the organization.
Interlocutor: Returning to the question of the leadership of Masonry. Is there somebody who is the maximum boss?
Ruanel: No, there is not a maximum boss. But there is a boss in each country.
Interlocutor: Obviously they are connected...
Ruanel: Of course. They are connected permanently and they held periodic meetings.
Interlocutor: Do they have a lot of money and power?
Ruanel: Yes, because money and power are the main things of the leadership of Freemasonry. They can end up destroying organizations, they achieve that some freemason occupies some higher position, whether in a company, or in a government position, for example as a senator or deputy. If they need to, they can also discredit somebody.
Interlocutor: Do they always act like that? I mean if they use their cunning and never physical violence.
Ruanel: Their approach is not through violence, however the consequences produce violence. I will give you an example. In Colombia there is a guerrilla, the American president gave an order to the Congress approving the bombardment of a field of drugs. The congress delayed the approval, then due to an special ordinance, the president ordered that at the 8:00 hour of the following day, that area be bombarded. No matter the people who die.
The democrats, who were against that presidential decision, because they considered it arbitrary because of its unconstitutionality - although it avoids the spread of drugs, it doesn't go first to the Congress -, they didn't have a way to stop that presidential order.
What the Masonic leadership did, then, is: They called to some ambitious journalist who wanted to climb positions quickly and they told him from a good source that the president at the 8:00 hour in the morning on January 2 would order the bombardment of a certain place at two hundred kilometers from the north of Bogota. The journalist, obviously, wanted to publish it in the newspaper. When the journalist was going to publish it, the chief of the newspaper told him: “it’s madness, we will have problems with lawsuits”, etc. etc.
Then he consulted it with his lawyers and they advised him not to publish it because it was risky.
As a consequence of that, the journalist very disgusted because he lost a scoop, he published it through Internet.
What the Masonic leadership was doing in fact was to try to stop the attack in the area of drugs because they were involved in the business of the sale of drugs.
Some of the Colombian drug dealers checked the Internet and they realized that at the 8:00 hour in the next morning they would bombard the area of drugs and then they got ready with missiles, so when an F-18 appeared, they destroyed it and one pilot died.
The field was bombarded, the drug was eliminated, but the pilot died because of the publication this irresponsible journalist published on the internet and because of the freemasons were picking on.
Interlocutor: I don’t understand. And what is the profit of freemasons?
Ruanel: In this case none. I simply wanted to give you an example of what kind of manipulation the Masonic leadership do. And although their methods are not violent, finally they provoke violence.
The attempt of the freemasons was to make sure that the president looked at the news that had been given in advance on the Internet, maybe he would opt to stop the bombing so that he wouldn’t be looked bad in the eyes of the public. In this case that didn't happen and the bombing was not stopped.
In the end of all this was that later on the journalist was accused of murder since because of him a pilot of a F-18 died.
Interlocutor: Good, I believe that they can’t do anything against the journalist for the principle of the freedom of the press.
Ruanel: That’s right.
Interlocutor: Is this an example or it is a real event?
Ruanel: It is a real event. It was a news story that a senator, who exists at this time, released, he was against the president Bush, he had 93% of support of the people and he is freemason.
Interlocutor: Is Bush freemason?
Ruanel: No, but there is a democratic wing that belongs to Freemasonry.
Interlocutor: Returning to the leadership of freemasons, Do they really have so much power as they say?
Ruanel: The power they have has to do in the way that they can credit or discredit people. They control newspapers, because they are owners or because they are investors, and this is already a tremendous power because they manipulate the public opinion.
Interlocutor: Are they drug dealers?
Ruanel: They are not drug dealers, but they are opportunists that is if they have some opportunity like that opportunity in Colombia, where the drug dealers requested help in exchange for a percentage in the sales, of course they do it.
Interlocutor: And pornography?
Ruanel: They are in the business of pornography too, because they see it as a good business.
Interlocutor: Even child pornography?
Ruanel: No, not Child pornography, only adult pornography, because they don't want to be exposed. Don't forget that adult pornography is legal. There were some freemasons of lower grades that distributed child pornography through Internet and they directly have them executed so that their deaths looked like accidents or suicides. One of them was burned with his department
Interlocutor: How did they do it?
Ruanel: With undercover agents.
Interlocutor: But it would seem that they have something good. I mean, if they fight against child pornography.
Ruanel: They don't do it for a matter of moral, but because they don't want to be exposed to any bad reputation nor any conflict. It is a matter of politics, not about moral. While they are inside the law, neither the police nor the FBI will deal with them.
Interlocutor: Are there freemasons inside the FBI or the CIA?
Ruanel: Of course, there are freemasons in both organizations.
Interlocutor: But although a minimum thing, Don't they have some religious doctrine or something similar that they instill to freemasons?
Ruanel: Only to the young people. They deceive them promising them spiritual growth, economic growth through the ordinances that we know that are only mere expressions of desires and all those things.
The trick they use to bamboozle is inculcating the false idea of course that as they ascend in the Masonic grades, the same cosmogonic law of “the great Architect of the Universe” takes care of them providing health, wealth and everything thay desire.
Interlocutor: Definitely it’s an entire hoax!
Ruanel: You have said it.
Interlocutor: You know that I like to criticize severely everything that deserves to be criticized strongly. What would be the critic that we could make about the freemasons, aside from what you have told me up to now?
Ruanel: The critic is that they deceive people with a false spiritual proposal, when they are really looking for, as I already pointed it out, power, wealth and manipulation.
They are the same thing as the Jehova’s Witnesses who sell millions and millions of books in the entire world and their variety is solely apparent because all their books are the same.
Interlocutor: But does Freemasonry have books? I mean if I could get one I would find out what they think.
Ruanel: No, because writing would be hazardous with what they say. In this way the critics would be able to conjecture about their ideas but without having any certainty on them.
Interlocutor: Is the alleged secret then nothing else that an strategic weapon?
Interlocutor: Let’s see if I understood: the Masonic great secret is that there is no secret?
Interlocutor: I can hardly believe that over emptiness such a powerful organization has been created. There is no doubt that human beings are completely crazy. I wonder how it is possible that there were great men in history that were freemasons.
Ruanel: Those are the lyric poets of Freemasonry. In South America, for example, in the XIX century there were politicians and military men, very important personalities who believed that they were offering their contribution to humanity when being part of Freemasonry.
Interlocutor: At this moment I remember freemasons like Sarmiento, San Martin, Belgrano, Bolivar.
Ruanel: Correct. They were big idealistic people and Spirits of Light. In spite of having fought in battles and caused deaths, they didn't lower of spiritual plane because their condition of liberators of peoples was evaluated.
They were not freemasons for power, but, on the contrary, for the contribution they believed they gave to the cause of freedom.
Their idealism was exactly what made of them easy preys of freemasons of higher grades. An idealist is easier to control even more than a teenager.
Interlocutor: Master, It’s the first time that something like this happens to me. You have been speaking to me about Masonry from the point of view of the maximum leadership more than a half hour and it is as if you had spoken to me about the air. I don’t have anything to grab, because you haven’t told me anything worthwhile!
Ruanel: Exactly! That impression you have is what this session is demonstrating about what Freemasonry is in fact.
Interlocutor: I find it very difficult to understand that with nothing they can deceive so many people and get so much power.
Ruanel: It is very simple. Imagine that to somebody who is an insignificant person they tell him that enrolling in the Masonic order within three years he can be a great personality in the world of businesses and to rub shoulders with powerful people, to have his own house, wealth. In this way not only the fools fall but the ambitious people, blinded by their own ambition.
Interlocutor: How many bosses are there? Five, six, ten?
Ruanel: There are twelve, distributed in the entire world.
Interlocutor: Is the only thing that matters to those twelve “capos” the money, power and manipulation?
Ruanel: Exactly. Everything rotates around these three items.
Interlocutor: Do they also manipulate to the Catholic Church?
Ruanel: No, because the Catholic Church has its own power.
Interlocutor: Do they manipulate some government?
Ruanel: Not Governments, but tendencies. They can support, for example, the postulation of somebody to governor, they can end up manipulating votes. There are governors in the United States who have being elected because of this kind of manipulation.
Interlocutor: Would the freemasons of lower grades be something like the useful idiots of the communism and nazism?
Ruanel: I’d prefer to call them naive, because useful idiots is a pejorative term. Nevertheless, some of them cannot be called naive because they have a lot of knowledge and later on they ascend, maybe being friends or the right hands of somebody who has power.
Interlocutor: According to you explanation, it Would not be correct to say that “the most cunning” are the twelve of the leadership and all the rest below are naive. Would it?
Ruanel: Of course not. Reducing to twelve “the most cunning” as you say it would be absurd. There are hundreds and hundreds like them.
Interlocutor: Do those twelve people really have power of decision?
Ruanel: Generally they have it, but it is not an all-embracing power. If there is a senator that doesn't appear in the leadership, he can argue with them some decision and even win. Besides, the twelve are not eternal because they shift.
I want to add, or better to ratify, something that is very important. We are speaking that inside the leadershipd of the twelve there are people of eighty or more years old and well, they die and they are replaced.
And generally those who are part of the twelve have very important positions, such as prime minister, Chiefs of party or even a prince's relative.
Interlocutor: I understand what you tell me. For what I see they embrace a lot. How many freemasons are there at the present time in the entire world?
Ruanel: Around five hundred thousand.
Interlocutor: And all of them are in the shade?
Ruanel: No, not all of them. It depends of the place and how the freemasons are seen. For instace, I can be in a populous city climbed onto a box and yell: “I’m a freemason grade 30 and I have news to give you! Well, two or three people will stop just out of curiosity and then they will keep walking without giving me any importance. In others, the freemasons are frowned upon and even persecuted.
Interlocutor: I understand. Is it true that they scheme all the possible foolishness to capture incautious people because the only thing they are interested in is the money they can get from them?
Ruanel: That’s right. The only thing that matters to them is money. This is the reason that they constantly change tactics, anyway, it doesn’t matter the ideas they profess, deists, atheists, Catholics, Muslims,or whatever they are, everybody is welcome to the lines of Freemasonry.
Interlocutor: And although it has been said already I want to repeat it to remove any doubt: Spirituality, as well as the ideas of “freedom, equality and fraternity” are used by them exclusively to get followers that give money and nothing else.
Ruanel: Totally. That is the only thing that matters to them. Of course, some people will believe that the money is to make charity works, but in fact it is only to manipulate votes and even governments.
Interlocutor: Master, I feel almost frustrated with regard to Freemasonry, because I never thought that it would be something so empty. I feel as if I tried to extract water from a dry well.
Ruanel: The fact that you have not extracted anything, it doesn't mean that it has not been juicy what was not said. Do you understand the irony of these last words?
Interlocutor: It is very clear. Don't the beginnings of Freemasonry have anything of occult or mysterious as they want to make people believe?
Ruanel: No, not at all. There are many mysteries that are not mysteries and there are many quests that don't make any sense, like the Holy Grail, the Ark of Noah and many others simply because in reality they don't exist.
Interlocutor: Do the twelve members of the leadership have perfect awareness of the deceit? I ask it because perhaps they have some special religious idea and they believe that it’s correct what they do based on that the end justifies the means. With this question I want to clarify if there is some kind of mistaken idealism.
Ruanel: No, inside the twelve there is not. They are not idealistic people but only materialists who are sure undoubtedly that the only thing they seek as I already told you, is money because money gives power to manipulate. Don’t look for another purpose because there is no other purpose, not even destroying any religion. They don’t care about religion, not even to fight against it.
Interlocutor: And the lower ranks?
Ruanel: Within the hundred who are in the lower grades which would be the second leadership, there are still some idealists who cooperate believing that they are contributing to humanity's good.
Interlocutor: Well, Master, I’ll conclude the the topic, quite disappointed because I was expecting the revelation of the “Great Secret of Masonry” and now I see that everything was a bluff.
In conclusion, I see that the best kept secret is that there is no secret. No wonder nobody could discover the great Masonic secret!
Ruanel: Correct, and you already know that nature hates emptiness and when one doesn't know anything about something, that emptiness is filled with anything. And this is the reason that some people invented that the secret purpose of the Masonry was the destruction of the Church. Nothing farther from the truth!
Interlocutor: I presume that those who are behind the Freemasons, ultimately are the spirits of error Am I right?
Ruanel: Don't doubt it for a moment. The spirits of error are always present where they see ignorance and cretinism.
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