FREEMASONRY 
“The Great  Masonic Secret finally unveiled” 
SESSION 16/DEC/03   
Medium:  Jorge Raul Olguin.  
Entity that  came to dialogue: Master Ruanel.  
Interlocutor:  Is that you, Master Ruanel?  
Ruanel: Yes  it’s me. I see that you have been working too much.  
Interlocutor:  Yes, as a matter of fact I was because this issue about Freemasonry which was  surely suggested by you in my causal body, has left me totally perplexed. I have  studied all the documents that I have been able to gather from the internet and  I could not figure out which is the famous Masonic secret.  
Ruanel: We  have suggested you that it is important to reveal that what seems many times  transcendent in the end it is.  
Interlocutor:  Is this the case of Freemasonry?  
Ruanel:  Correct.  
Interlocutor:  To clear up my mind, we will suppose that you are a freemason of the highest  rank and I will ask you everything about Masonry. Do you agree?   
Ruanel:  Yes, perfectly.  
Interlocutor:  The question naturally is: Which is the final purpose of Freemasonry? I already  tell you that it doesn't seem coherent to me when the Catholics say that  Freemasonry or Illuminati is a Jewish conspiracy to destroy Christianity.   
Ruanel:  There are freemasons in most of the western countries and being freemasons  doesn't prevent them to practice their religious rituals, for that reason saying  that they are against the Church or they seek to destroy it, it is something  completely absurd.  
Freemasons take  care of politics more than religion. They take care about political power more  than anything else. In the XIX Century, in several countries of America, there  were many freemasons who were inside the leadership of governments.   
Even in the  emerging countries where there were still viceroys, at the same time as  government boards were made, I’ll put the example of Argentina, many  representatives were freemasons and they didn't have any other function more  than believe that there was a secret brotherhoood inside that order.   
This belief was  increased because each member only knew a part of the entirety.   
Even the one who  directed each leadership said that one could not know all the members because it  was a security measure to avoid that if some freemason was arrested,  he could not accuse to whom he didn't know.   
Let‘s say that  if inside a political leadership there were hundred members I, as a follower,  knew twenty of them, another knew other twenty, but in fact, not everyone knows  each other but only a part of them.  
This kind of  maneuvers like the one I mentioned strengthened the belief that they were part  of a secret brotherhood.  
Interlocutor:  But what was the reason?  
Ruanel:  There  was no base, no proposal, no  message. It is like those secret brotherhoods of the faculties or  Universities  of the United States that  simply make student pacts with alleged demons, but if one talks to some of them  and he asks who are the others, they will say sincerely that they don't know  them.  
Some of them  wear masks, others hide themselves wearing hoods, they don't know each other and  there is no message of any kind or nothing of that sort.  
And all these  attitudes create a mystery that lies deep inside the control of mankind through a global government.  
Interlocutor:  Are you telling me that the thing there is about Masonry, and be worth the  paradox, is new world order?  
Ruanel:  Correct, and the only thing is to seek control of human populations, that is the mystery.   
Interlocutor:  Master, if I was perplexed before the session, I admit that now, I’m even more  perplexed. Who is the maximum chief of Freemasonry?  
Ruanel:  There isn’t a single person that commands, but rather in each country there is a  representative.  
Interlocutor:  But someone has to be the maximum leader!  
Ruanel: No,  because they change. 
Interlocutor:  And what is the purpose of Masonry from the point of view of leadership?   
Ruanel:  Power and money.  
Interlocutor:  Power and money? Isn’t there any other purpose?  
Ruanel:  There is no other purpose more than Power and money.  
Interlocutor:  But don't they speak that they adore to the Architect of the Universe and all  those things?  
Ruanel:  Those are grandiloquent but hollow phrases, without any content. We know as a  group - I refer to Grupo Elron - how many associations, how many sects, how many  organizations give messages completely rhetorical, totally cursory in content.   
And not only  does Freemasonry give grandiloquent messages but they also bestow grandiloquent  titles.  
Interlocutor:  I understand. As I see it, the purposes of Masonry are completely material and  they have nothing to do with the destruction of the Catholic Church, Is  that  correct?  
Ruanel: If  the Catholic Church interfered with the organization, they would try to  discredit it, only as a mean of defense, but  not to destroy it.  
The destruction  or even the attempt of destruction of an institution like the Catholic Church,  it would be counter-productive because it would transform it into a symbol of  martyrdom and it would attract more faithful people, as a result, it would grow  more. On the other hand the aggressor(s) would be subject to insults.   
Let’s see an  example: Let’s suppose that a concealed order detonates an explosive device in a  temple of a certain  important religious  confession in a city also important, automatically everybody would pity that  religious confession and it would get more followers.  
Interlocutor:  And it would transcend...  
Ruanel:  Yes, it would transcend, but because of pity, in the sense of “poor people”,  “look at what they have done to them”,  “they only wanted  to preach the truth” Either the Catholic  Church or any other religion, it would be in a better position if they attack  it.  
For that reason,  I repeat that the destruction of the Catholic Church is only a myth, increased  by the paranoia of some priests that see persecutions everywhere.   
Interlocutor:  Are the rites of Masonry as silly as they depict them?  
Ruanel: Not all of them. The only function they have is to dazzle those who are new in  Freemasonry. However, in the highest ranks they know occult arts like the Goetia, The clavicle of Solomon and other texts that allow them to practice rituals and blood sacrifices in order to  gain more power over people.   
Interlocutor:  Do freemasons realize in a moment that what they learned is an entire silliness  and they leave the organization?  
Ruanel:  Except for rarely exceptions, they don't realize it. I will give you an example.  There is a Protestant order which was created in the XIX Century called  “Jehovah’s Witnesses”. This order,- and this is not a prejudice but a reality- ,  it’s composed of obstinate people, fools, cretins, silly people, close-minded  people and all the adjectives that you could imagine to describe them, because  all the meetings are a copy of the others. They remind me to engrams: A=A=A=A.   
Interlocutor:  I understand the irony perfectly.  
Ruanel:  Well, the meetings of freemasons are the   same: the first is similar to the second, which is similar to the third  and so on. Notice that if a Jehovah’s Witness, follower, brother, or whatever  they call to themselves, goes during ten years to the church, he will have the  same "wisdom" at the end that the one he had at the beginning. And even though  he has gone up step by step, in spite of being pastors, they continue being  close-minded poeple and ignorants.  
Essentially,  Freemasonry is exactly the same thing. Because they themselves start believing  what they are saying. For example, If I were incarnated and  I sell you something, I am so convinced of  what I’m selling you that I myself believe it. Only those who are in the higher ranks know they nature of the knowledge behind the new world order agenda.  
Interlocutor:  Let’s see if I understand the concept. Are you telling me that only the elite know what  everything is all about, but not all of them end up convincing to themselves that it is true?   
Ruanel:  Exactly! It is similar to a salesman who sells a stain remover and he knows that  it doesn't work, but from selling it and highlighting its qualities, he ends up  believing that the stain remover he sells is a true marvel.   
Interlocutor:  But Isn’t that an engrama?  
Ruanel: Of  course it is an engram! Self-persuasion is in fact an auto-implant.   
Interlocutor:  It is truly amazing. Here I have a writing criticizing Masonry of a cardinal  called Jose Maria Caro Rodriguez that, beyond the prejudices it might have, and  even though he is not able to decipher the famous Masonic secret, I find it quite  lucid and it guesses right the evaluation. Is it correct?  
Ruanel:  Correct. In general it is fine, but remove the paranoiac part that says that the  purpose of Masonry is the destruction of the Catholic Church. That’s nonsense.   
Interlocutor:  I want to insist about the question: Is Freemasonry similar to the promotion  that an employee have in a public administration who starts cleaning the  bathrooms and then he is promoted achieving  the charge of a boss and he continues being  the same ignorant that he was when he entered?  
Ruanel: The  human beings are so conditioned that if you take a clerk who has his own desk  and you change a stapler from its place, if he doesn't notice what was changed  of place, he will feel bad-tempered the whole day because he will notice that  something is bad on his desk, but without knowing exactly what is wrong.   
The human beings  are so conditioned to such point on one hand, and on the other hand they are so  asleep that they don't realize that; first, it doesn't matter if the stapler has  been changed of place, because it’s not an issue, and second, if they were more  alert they would know that was changed of place.  
But while they  don't perceive the fact that the stapler was changed of place, and they do care  that everything be tidy as  they left it,  the person feels bad.  
Translate this  to the jargon of staggering that freemasons have, they are taught in such way  that as they go ascending in grades they feel more and more important, without  realizing that the building they are ascending to is made of smoke and not of  solid stone as they believe it.  
Interlocutor:  But while they ascend of grades, Don’t  they contact with personalities of the world  who are masons and who they didn’t know before?  
Ruanel:  That is one of the incentives. Imagine, I am incarnated and I’m an insignificant  person, after swearing solemnly that I will keep the secret, suddenly they do  ascend me of grade and I am contacted with a personality of the world of  businesses who is also freemason, I end up being at the same level of that  alleged equality. How won't my ego be flattered of being freemason?   
Interlocutor:  Do those terrible oaths exist as they say? I mean to those oaths that speak of  things like “that they cut my tongue if I talk about what I have sworn not to  reveal” and things like that.  
Ruanel: Not  at the present time. Before yes. Today nobody is as silly as to be convinced of  keeping silence about something like that. Besides, journalism exists. If I am  freemason and for some reason I want to reveal their secrets without being  discovered, nothing prevents me from talking to a journalist through Internet so  that these secrets be exposed to the public.  
Interlocutor:  Is it true that those who began as freemasons after a while when they realize  that they had been deceived, they abandoned the organization?   
Ruanel: No,  I repeat what I already said: it is very difficult that they discover the deceit  because they are conditioned.  
Interlocutor:  But what is the reason that some people left the organization?   
Ruanel:  They left it because that order stopped attracting them, because they had  changed it for other hobbies or because they had simply decided to be devoted  more to their families or their professions, etc.  
Besides, when  they are young they also abandon the organization when they realize that the  economic rewards they had promised them don't appear, and things like that.   
Don't forget  that the fishhook of Masonry is in fact to enthuse the applicant with social  status and economic rewards he would get in the organization. In this sense they  don't have any obstacle to put as an example to someone who is in a higher  social status and point him out as a freemason explaining to him that he is in  that level because he is a freemason.  
As this is  unreal, the boy who is enrolled in Freemasonry when he was twenty-two years old,  when he reaches the age of twenty-seven, he sees that nothing has changed that  his problems are still there and he continues working as an employee everyday in  the same position, then he simply leaves the organization.  
Interlocutor:  And can he abandon the organization without any problem?  
Ruanel: In  a case like this, yes, because it is somebody harmless that won't harm the  organization.  
Interlocutor:  Returning to the question of the leadership of Masonry. Is there somebody who is  the maximum boss?  
Ruanel: No,  there is not a maximum boss. But there is a boss in each country.   
Interlocutor:  Obviously they are connected...  
Ruanel: Of  course. They are connected permanently and they held periodic meetings.   
Interlocutor:  Do they have a lot of money and power?  
Ruanel:  Yes, because money and power are the main things of the leadership of  Freemasonry. They can end up destroying organizations, they achieve that some  freemason occupies some higher position, whether in a company, or in a  government position, for example as a senator or deputy. If they need to, they  can also discredit somebody.  
Interlocutor:  Do they always act like that? I mean if they use their cunning and never  physical violence.  
Ruanel:  Their approach is not through violence, however the consequences produce  violence. I will give you an example. In Colombia there is a guerrilla, the  American president gave an order to the Congress approving the bombardment of a  field of drugs. The congress delayed the approval, then due to an special  ordinance, the president ordered that at the 8:00 hour of the following day,  that area be bombarded. No matter the people who die.  
The democrats,  who were against that presidential decision, because they considered it  arbitrary because of its unconstitutionality - although it avoids the spread of  drugs, it doesn't go first to the Congress -, they didn't have a way to stop  that presidential order.  
What the Masonic  leadership did, then, is: They called to some ambitious journalist who wanted to  climb positions quickly and they told him from a good source that the president  at the 8:00 hour in the morning on January 2  would order the  bombardment of a certain place at two hundred kilometers from the north of  Bogota. The journalist, obviously, wanted to publish it in the newspaper. When  the journalist was going to publish it, the chief of the newspaper told him:  “it’s madness, we will have problems with lawsuits”, etc. etc.   
Then he  consulted it with his lawyers and they advised him not to publish it because it  was risky.  
As a consequence  of that, the journalist very disgusted because he lost a scoop, he published it  through Internet.  
What the Masonic  leadership was doing in fact was to try to stop the attack in the area of drugs  because they were involved in the business of the sale of drugs.   
Some of the  Colombian drug dealers checked the Internet and they realized that at the 8:00  hour in the next morning they would bombard the area of drugs and then they got  ready with missiles, so when an F-18 appeared,  they destroyed it and one pilot died.   
The field was  bombarded, the drug was eliminated, but the pilot died because of the  publication this irresponsible journalist published on the internet and because  of the freemasons were picking on.  
Interlocutor:  I don’t understand. And what is the profit of freemasons?  
Ruanel: In  this case none. I simply wanted to give you an example of what kind of  manipulation the Masonic leadership do. And although their methods are not  violent, finally they provoke violence.  
The attempt of  the freemasons was to make sure that the president looked at the news that had  been given in advance on the Internet, maybe he would opt to stop the bombing so  that he wouldn’t be looked bad in the eyes of the public. In this case that  didn't happen and the bombing was not  stopped.  
In the end of  all this was that later on the journalist was accused of murder since because of  him a pilot of a F-18 died.  
Interlocutor:  Good, I believe that they can’t do anything against the  journalist for the principle of the freedom of  the press.  
Ruanel:  That’s right.  
Interlocutor:  Is this an example or it is a real event?  
Ruanel: It  is a real event. It was a news story that a senator, who exists at this time,  released, he was against the president Bush, he had 93% of support of the people  and he is freemason.  
Interlocutor:  Is Bush freemason?  
Ruanel: Yes,  he's an Skull and bones lodge member, but there is a democratic wing that belongs to Freemasonry.   
Interlocutor:  Returning to the leadership of freemasons, Do they really have so much power as  they say?  
Ruanel: The  power they have has to do in the way that they can credit or discredit people.  They control newspapers, because they are owners or because they are investors,  and this is already a tremendous power because they manipulate the public  opinion.  
Interlocutor:  Are they drug dealers?  
Ruanel:  They are not drug dealers, but they are opportunists that is if they have some  opportunity like that opportunity they had in Colombia, where the drug dealers requested  help in exchange for a percentage in the sales, of course they do it.   
Interlocutor:  And pornography?  
Ruanel:  They are in the business of pornography too, because they see it as a good  business.  
Interlocutor:  Even child pornography?  
Ruanel: No,  not Child pornography, only adult pornography, because they don't want to be  exposed. Don't forget that adult pornography is legal. There were some  freemasons of lower grades that distributed child pornography through Internet  and they directly have them executed so that their deaths looked like accidents  or suicides. One of them was burned inside his department  
Interlocutor:  How did they do it?  
Ruanel:  With undercover agents.  
Interlocutor:  But it would seem that they have something good. I mean, if they fight against  child pornography.  
Ruanel:  No. They don't do it for a matter of moral, but because they don't want to be  exposed and have bad reputation nor any conflict. It is a matter of politics, not  about moral. While they are above the law, neither the police nor the FBI will  deal with them.  
Interlocutor:  Are there freemasons inside the FBI or the CIA?  
Ruanel: Of  course, there are freemasons in both organizations.  
Interlocutor:  But although a minimum thing, Don't they have some religious doctrine or  something similar that they instill to  freemasons?  
Ruanel:  Only to the young people. They deceive them promising them spiritual growth,  economic growth through the ordinances that we know that are only mere  expressions of desires and all those things.  
The trick they  use to bamboozle is inculcating the false idea of course that as they ascend in  the Masonic grades, the same cosmogonic law of “the great Architect of  the Universe” takes care of them providing  health, wealth and everything thay desire.  
Interlocutor:  Definitely it’s an entire hoax!  
Ruanel: You  have said it.  
Interlocutor:  You know that I like to criticize severely everything that deserves to be  criticized strongly. What would be the critic that we could make about the  freemasons, aside from what you have told me up to now?  
Ruanel: The  critic is that they deceive people with a false spiritual proposal, when they  are really looking for, as I already pointed it out, power, wealth and  manipulation.  
They are the  same thing as the Jehova’s Witnesses who sell millions and millions of books in  the entire world and their variety is solely apparent because all their books  are the same.  
Interlocutor:  But does Freemasonry have books? I mean if I could get one I would find out what  they think.  
Ruanel: No,  because writing would be hazardous with what they say. In this way the critics  would be able to conjecture about their ideas but without having any certainty  on them.  
Interlocutor:  Is the alleged secret, then, nothing else that an strategic weapon?   
Ruanel:  Totally.  
Interlocutor:  Let’s see if I understood: the Masonic great secret is that there is no secret for the low ranks?   
Ruanel:  Exactly.  
Interlocutor:  I can hardly believe that over emptiness such a powerful organization has been  created. There is no doubt that human beings are completely crazy. I wonder how  it is possible that there were great men in history that were freemasons.   
Ruanel:  Those are the lyric poets of Freemasonry. In South America, for example, in the  XIX century there were politicians and military men, very important  personalities who believed that they were offering their contribution to  humanity when being part of Freemasonry.  
Interlocutor:  At this moment I remember freemasons like Sarmiento, San Martin, Belgrano,  Bolivar.  
Ruanel:  Correct. They were big idealistic people and Spirits of Light. In spite of  having fought in battles and caused deaths, they didn't lower of spiritual plane  because their condition of liberators of peoples was evaluated.   
They were not  freemasons for power, but, on the contrary, for the contribution they believed  they gave to the cause of freedom.  
Their idealism  was exactly what made of them easy preys of freemasons of higher grades. An  idealist is easier to control even more than a teenager.  
Interlocutor:  Master, It’s the first time that something like this happens to me. You have  been speaking to me about Masonry from the point of view of the maximum  leadership more than a half hour and it is as if you had spoken to me about the  air. I don’t have anything to grab, because you haven’t told me anything  worthwhile!  
Ruanel:  Exactly! That impression you have is what this session is demonstrating about  what Freemasonry is in fact.  
Interlocutor:  I find it very difficult to understand that with nothing they can deceive so  many people and get so much power.  
Ruanel: It  is very simple. Imagine that to somebody who is an insignificant person they  tell him that enrolling in the Masonic order within three years he can be a  great personality in the world of businesses and to rub shoulders with powerful  people, to have his own house, wealth. In this way not only the fools fall but  the ambitious people, blinded by their own ambition.  
Interlocutor:  How many bosses are there? Five, six, ten?  
Ruanel:  There are twelve, distributed in the entire world.  
Interlocutor:  Is the only thing that matters to those twelve “capos” the money, power and  manipulation?  
Ruanel:  Exactly. Everything rotates around these three items.  
Interlocutor:  Do they also manipulate to the Catholic Church?  
Ruanel: No,  because the Catholic Church has its own power.  
Interlocutor:  Do they manipulate some government?  
Ruanel: Not  only Governments, but also tendencies. They can support, for example, the postulation of  somebody to governor, they can end up manipulating votes. There are governors in  the United States who have being elected because of this kind of manipulation.   
Interlocutor:  Would the freemasons of lower grades be something like the useful idiots of the  communism and nazism?  
Ruanel: I’d  prefer to call them naive, because useful idiots is a pejorative term.  Nevertheless, some of them cannot be called naive because they have a lot of  knowledge and later on they ascend, maybe being friends or the right hands of  somebody who has power.  
Interlocutor:  According to you explanation,  it  Would not be correct to say that “the most  cunning” are the twelve of the leadership and all the rest below are naive.  Would it?  
Ruanel: Of  course not. Reducing to twelve “the most cunning” as you say it would be absurd.  There are hundreds and hundreds like them.  
Interlocutor:  Do those twelve people really have power of decision?  
Ruanel:  Generally they have it, but it is not an all-embracing power. If there is a  senator that doesn't appear in the leadership, he can argue with them some  decision and even win. Besides, the twelve are not eternal because they shift.   
I want to add,  or better to ratify, something that is very important. We are speaking that  inside the leadershipd of the twelve there are people of eighty or more years  old and well, they die and they are replaced.  
And generally  those who are part of the twelve have very important positions, such as prime  minister, Chiefs of party or even a prince's relative.  
Interlocutor:  I understand what you tell me. For what I see they embrace a lot. How many  freemasons are there at the present time in the entire world?   
Ruanel:  Around five hundred thousand.  
Interlocutor:  And all of them are in the shade?  
Ruanel: No,  not all of them. It depends of the place and how the freemasons are seen. For  instace, I can be in a populous city climbed onto a box and yell: “I’m a  freemason grade 30 and I have news to give you! Well, two or three people will  stop just out of curiosity and then they will keep walking without giving me any  importance. In others, the freemasons are frowned upon and even persecuted.   
Interlocutor:  I understand. Is it true that they scheme all the possible foolishness to  capture incautious people because the only thing they are interested in is the  money they can get from them?  
Ruanel:  That’s right. The only thing that matters to them is money. This is the reason  that they constantly change tactics, anyway, it doesn’t matter the ideas they  profess, deists, atheists, Catholics, Muslims,or whatever they are, everybody is  welcome to the lines of Freemasonrym, this is the Luciferian doctrine. 
Interlocutor:  And although it has been said already I want to repeat it to remove any doubt:  Spirituality, as well as the ideas of “freedom, equality and fraternity” are  used by them exclusively to get followers that give money and nothing else.   
Ruanel:  Totally. That is the only thing that matters to them. Of course, some people  will believe that the money is to make charity works, but in fact it is only to  manipulate votes and even governments.  
Interlocutor:  Master, I feel almost frustrated with regard to Freemasonry, because I never  thought that it would be something so empty. I feel as if I tried to extract  water from a dry well.  
Ruanel: The  fact that you have not extracted anything, it doesn't mean that it has not been  juicy what was not  said. Do you understand the  irony of these last words?  
Interlocutor:  It is very clear. Don't the beginnings of Freemasonry have anything of occult or  mysterious as they want to make people believe?  
Ruanel: No,  not at all. There are many mysteries that are not mysteries and there are many  quests that don't make any sense, like the Holy Grail,  the Ark of  Noah and many others simply  because in reality they don't exist.  
Interlocutor:  Do the twelve members of the leadership have perfect awareness of the deceit?   I ask it because perhaps they have some  special religious idea and they believe that it’s correct what they do based on  that the end justifies the means. With this question I want to clarify if there  is some kind of mistaken idealism.  
Ruanel: No,  inside the twelve there is not. They are not idealistic people but only  materialistic who are sure undoubtedly that the only thing they seek as I already  told you, is money because money gives power to manipulate. Don’t look for  another purpose because there is no other purpose, not even destroying any  religion. They don’t care about religion, not even to fight against it, but they seek to control one day the world through a global elite because they have the means and technology to do so.   
Interlocutor:  And the lower ranks?  
Ruanel:  Within the  hundreds who are in the lower  grades which would be the second leadership, there are still some idealists who  cooperate believing that they are contributing to humanity's good through this NWO.   
Interlocutor:  Well, Master, I’ll conclude the the topic, quite disappointed because I was  expecting the revelation of the “Great Secret of Masonry” and now I see that  everything was a bluff.  
In  conclusion, I see that the best kept secret is that there is no secret for ordinary people, but only the elite. No  wonder nobody could discover the great Masonic secret!  
Ruanel:  Correct, and you already know that nature hates emptiness and when one doesn't  know anything about something, that emptiness is filled with anything. And this  is the reason that some people invented that the secret purpose of the Masonry  was the destruction of the Church. Nothing farther from the truth!   
Interlocutor:  I presume that those who are behind the Freemasons, ultimately are the spirits  of error Am I right?  
Ruanel:  Don't doubt it for a moment. The spirits of error are always present where they  see ignorance and cretinism.  
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