| TV SESSION - 06/Jul/1999 Interlocutor: Horacio Embon TV Program: “Zona Infinito” Buenos Aires Entity that came to talk: Rah Horacio Embon: We have in this program Professor Jorge Olguin, to whom we are going to ask, what is mediumship. Jorge Olguin: Mediumship is a gift that all incarnated beings can develop. Many confuse it with telepathy... In fact, mediumship is the communication of the incarnated being with spiritual entities that are disincarnated, commonly misnamed "the dead". However, there is misinformation about it... It’s believed, for example, that the whole soul incarnate, but this is not so. Only 10% incarnate. The other 90% is in the spiritual or vibratory plane. This means that at mediumship level we can communicate not only with a spirit, but also with an incarnate being, but with his spiritual part, that is to say, what is known as "Higher Self” or “Superior I” in some philosophies. Horacio Embon: What is the difference between soul, spirit and higher self? Jorge Olguin: They are equivalent expressions designating the same essence. Horacio Embon: And why does it reincarnate only 10%? Jorge Olguin: Because that is enough energy to animate our physical body and to act on the physical plane, while the other 90% remains in his own plane... I would not say to "direct" us, but rather to guide us and somehow also "to experience in us". Let me give an example that other Masters have already given, which makes the comparison between the diver who descended to the seabed with his equipment, diving apparatus, shoes, etc. and the captain of the boat who stays above to send him oxygen and to guide him. The diver would be the incarnate being and the captain, the soul or higher self. Horacio Embon: When my heart stops beating, when clinically the doctor signs my death certificate and read, for example: "Horacio Embon is clinically dead", where do I go, because the "package" will be here on Earth and finally will be disintegrated? Jorge Olguin: You return to the spiritual world from where you came, to a plane that can be of Light or Error, according to how you lived, the positive or negative experiences you have had in this incarnation. Horacio Embon: Then does my spiritual future depend on what I have done in my present life? Jorge Olguin: Basically it depends on whether you have been selfish or altruistic. Horacio Embon: What is being selfish and what is being altruistic? Jorge Olguin: The two factors that may pull downwards or anchor us in a karma are, on one hand, the body of desires, which makes us to get into rage, anger, susceptibilities, and on the other hand that tremendous attachment, being selfish, being stingy, thinking first about us, not having any kind of service-oriented... That is being selfish. And to think of vocation of service is being altruistic. Horacio Embon: And what is the ego? Jorge Olguin: The ego is practically what impels us to be protagonists, to always think about us... There is even some confusion about this. It’s common for a couple, when they talk over the phone, saying: I miss you, I need you, I want you, "I"... and always based on oneself. We never think - or usually never think - based on the other. That is the ego, thinking only in us. So when we sometimes suffer a loss - loss in appearance, obviously - we have the "need" for that other person... Horacio Embon: It’s the absence of... Jorge Olguin: When the ego does not exist, there should not be absence, because then we stop thinking about us. There is no absence when we think of the other; there is no absence when what we do is to give. Horacio Embon: You say that when I reach my clinical end, I will be what I have reincarnated and something else that I have done in previous life times... Will I always be the result of my past lives? Jorge Olguin: In every case. Horacio Embon: …and my soul, already complete, will it be able to reincarnate again? Jorge Olguin: Yes, yes. When the being disincarnates, the 10% incarnated joins the remaining 90% at the corresponding spiritual plane or vibratory level, conforming the 100%. Then, it will be again a complete spirit, and if the person, being incarnated, did not have an appropriate conduct, it will return to reincarnate to learn that unfinished lesson, according to its karma. Let me clarify and not to have any doubt, that karma is not a punishment, not a fault to pay, but rather a lesson to learn. Horacio Embon: There are high spiritual entities I am talking about Jesus, Confucius, Buddha, Moses... Did they have another level of reincarnation? Jorge Olguin: They reincarnated in a mission of service. Horacio Embon: When, for instance, Jesus says: "I am the son of God", what do these words mean? Jorge Olguin: In fact, we are all children of God. We are all brothers. Jesus is our brother, at the same time, of course, our Master. Horacio Embon: Did Jesus reincarnate to be God? Jorge Olguin: Jesus had reincarnated in mission as a human being, as any of us. Horacio Embon: So then, why are we not like him? Jorge Olguin: By attachment, by the ego that dominates us, this makes us to think more about us than the need of others. Then we suffer personality gaps, selfishness, fears... Another thing that adds to the confusion is to think that the ego is only pedantry, arrogance... The ego is also the inferiority complex, is feeling diminished, is to be afraid of going for. Everything that is protagonism is ego. Horacio Embon: Returning to mediumship, how could I contact with those superior beings or my higher self? Jorge Olguin: Through a skilled medium or having the gift of mediumship, in which case we have to involve ourselves in love, we have to be in great harmony to prevent that the entity that one takes is a spirit of Error, because the important thing in mediumship is the message. Horacio Embon: So, when you convene or invoke, does everything come around? Jorge Olguin: Of course. Horacio Embon: Do both come the Error as the Wise, the Dark as the Light? Jorge Olguin: That's right, and what is precisely being sought, is that one incorporates an entity of Light, so that he conveys a positive message. Horacio Embon: And how is the practice of mediumship? Jorge Olguin: The practice is to enter in a state that is called "alpha", that is to say, it directly puts the mind in "blank", and then calls the Light and the particular entity comes down. Horacio Embon: How do you do it, so that is not an entity of Error? Jorge Olguin: No, I don’t classify it, "I filter it", to express it somehow, through an envelope of love. Love, practically, is a kind of filter that prevents the spirits of Error to get through, does not allow them the free pass. Horacio Embon: Are you a Master? Jorge Olguin: I consider myself a Master like everyone else. Somehow we all teach and for that reason we are all Masters. But I also consider myself a student, and I will be so until the last day of my incarnation. Horacio Embon: What is to be a Master on earth? Jorge Olguin: Somehow it’s to be able to teach people who want to learn the Word. Horacio Embon: Was Jesus a Master of Light? Jorge Olguin: Yes, he was, and still is in the high level where he inhabits now. Horacio Embon: Buddha and Mohammed as well? Jorge Olguin: Yes, of course, each one in their field. Horacio Embon: What does it mean: "each one in their field"? Jorge Olguin: It means that the mistake is in the incarnated human being... All Masters taught the same thing. Jesus said "Love each other". In this case he’s teaching impersonal love, not the personal love of I want you, I need you. Siddhartha, the Buddha taught exactly the same thing: "Put down all ignorance"; "Head towards others." Why, then, the divisions between Christianity and Buddhism? That was the work of human beings, not of these Masters. Each Master, Mohammed, Confucius, Lao Tse, had a similar thought, which was distorted by man. Horacio Embon: Why did men get confused so much - and confused, at the best style of Babel? Jorge Olguin: By attachment, by protagonism, to find their own disciplines, to create their own dogmas. Christianity has created dogmas, and many teachings of Jesus were distorted by them, such as the reincarnation... Jesus, at one point, and this is in the Bible, speaks of reincarnation in the chapter of the Transfiguration, where he says: "Elijah already came and you have not recognized him." Horacio Embon: Who is Jesus referring to? Jorge Olguin: Jesus was referring to John the Baptist... They have removed many words from the Master... And I am convinced that there are more than 4 gospels and not all of them are true. Related to this, it’s necessary to use common sense. There are gospels in which Jesus was portrayed a little malicious. I leave that Gospel aside, because common sense tells me that the Master was a Master of Love, from birth until he disincarnated. Horacio Embon: Returning to the subject of karma, what does this word mean? What does it mean that a person upload his karma until the end of his days? Jorge Olguin: Many relate karma to a fault to pay. Karma, as I said earlier, is a "lesson to learn". One takes a matter that did not well in a previous life and the next one must return to do it. Horacio Embon: Can we leave pending matters because we didn’t do them well? Jorge Olguin: Yes, even one can take more karmas than those brought to the current incarnation. There are people who are so selfish that are always thinking of themselves. They are completely self-centered and live generating a karma after another, and instead of reversing certain lesson they carry more lessons. Horacio Embon: Changing the subject, what are twin souls? Jorge Olguin: Twin souls, is one of the most important subjects... We have always been taught of the necessity of having someone, because since I was little I have heard the issue of the twin souls, which has been explained by saying that the spirit was split into two and, that upon separation, those souls were eternally living looking for each other until reunion... and then they lived the great earthly love... This conception, in addition of being totally wrong, pushes humans to be needed. "Twin" souls, on the other hand, are not necessarily two, as they can be three, ten, one hundred, one thousand... Twin souls, in fact, are souls that vibrate in resonance and the example I give is two guitars, both tuned in the same key... I play a string tone in one of the guitars and the other guitar vibrates without touching it, because they have been tuned the same. A spirit that vibrates at a certain tone and another one that vibrates in the same tone are souls who are going to be attracted automatically. Horacio Embon: Is that love? Jorge Olguin: That's love too. The attraction of twin souls is love. I, for example, consider myself a soul mate of Master Jesus, and I say this with the utmost respect, because I vibrate in tune with him. I admit that I still lack a lot to reach his height, but I love him... Horacio Embon: Was Jesus a medium? Jorge Olguin: Yes, Jesus had the gift of communicating. Horacio Embon: Are you a medium? Jorge Olguin: Yes, I am. Horacio Embon: And whom do you communicate with? Jorge Olguin: I communicate with entities of Light, both from planet Earth as other worlds inhabited in other star systems. Horacio Embon: And how is it possible to contact extraterrestrial beings? Jorge Olguin: Because distance is not an obstacle for the thought. We can contact worlds that are located hundreds of light years. Horacio Embon: Do you receive or give messages? Jorge Olguin: I receive messages. Horacio Embon: What do they tell you? Jorge Olguin: For example, that there will not be changes at the end of the Millennium, that the Earth is very much divided into fractions, but not referring to political fractions, as it’s very unusual for entities of other planes to get involved in that issue. They involve on topics of belief. Our planet is much divided on this issue; there are fratricidal struggles for religious matters. Horacio Embon: For example, this latest ethnic strife in Kosovo, not to mention World War II and other historical struggles known by everybody... Jorge Olguin: Sure, but what hurts the most are the struggles of beliefs, like those of the fundamentalists in Afghanistan, the terrorists of Ireland... I am going to mention a very brief example. A nurse was taking care of an elderly handicapped woman and only after few days that she had begun, she resigned. Her granddaughter went to find out the reason for that action and the nurse confessed that she had resigned because she belonged to a protestant branch – it’s irrelevant to specify which one – when the old woman was younger, she had been a director of a spiritualist center, so, her belief prevented her from taking care of the woman. Then the granddaughter with the purest common sense replied: How… does Jesus teach the Service without looking at whom? The message that emerges from this true story is that personal love, our earthly love, is synonymous of respect and that we can not give love without respect. And human being "uses" religion to separate, not to unite. There is another love, the impersonal love that Jesus taught us. It’s the love of service, which is not fixed on race or sex or religion, which is provided spontaneously to anyone who needs it. Then the only way that we have to practice love is serving, but we have only one way to do it: not discriminating. Horacio Embon: Do you know who was in a previous life Jorge Olguin, with whom I am talking to now? Jorge Olguin: The entities have revealed me that I was John Zebedee, the beloved disciple of Master Jesus. And as John Zebedee, I was with the Master until I was 18, he was 35. Jesus was born on August 6 of the year -6, and passed away on April 30 in the year 30, that is, 35 years and 9 months. Horacio Embon: And what did John Zebedee do after the death of Jesus? Jorge Olguin: As John Zebedee, I took care of the biological mother of my Master and at some point, at a certain age, I disincarnated and returned to my spiritual plane, where I was in mission until I returned to incarnate again, also on mission, and here I am. Horacio Embon: How can it be known who in a previous life Horacio Embon was? Jorge Olguin: One can learn, or by contacting the Higher self of Horacio Embon, or by making a regression to the past. Horacio Embon: And how is that? Jorge Olguin: One leads the person to a mental state known as "alpha", and in this state, the person - alert and not asleep as in the hypnotic trance - is recalling, first his childhood and then continuing going back, until arriving to previous lives. Horacio Embon: Has it been proven scientifically? Jorge Olguin: Yes, it has... It’s important, to ensure that the regression is successful, that the person has confidence in the operator, that’s to say, that he’s certainty that the operator is not going to manipulate him, because the person returns to the past fully alert and not asleep. I reiterate that hypnotism is an inadvisable technique because, besides reducing the free determinism, it’s a dangerous procedure, since it can produce unpredictable psychosomatic disorders. Horacio Embon: Then, is the person conscious throughout the process? Jorge Olguin: Yes. This is not a technique by which one can manipulate a person like a puppet. Horacio Embon: Are there any people who can not pass that threshold to go to the past? Jorge Olguin: Yes, because at that time they may be nervous or afraid of what they will find out upon their return to past lives... The fear and doubts prevent them from crossing the threshold. Horacio Embon: Can I make contact with previous spirits whom I have known? Jorge Olguin: Possibly. Horacio Embon: And what do I have to do? Jorge Olguin: Opening to them, ask for messages. Horacio Embon: And does the message arrive? Jorge Olguin: The message always arrives. Horacio Embon: But I guess that it will not come as a voice on the phone... Jorge Olguin: With regard to the mediumship, many people believe that one hears voices... In my case, for example, I speak, simply I speak, as if it were an open faucet that instead of liquid it lets out words... Horacio Embon: Could you make a demonstration at this moment? Jorge Olguin: Of course... Just give me a few seconds to incorporate the spiritual entity... Rah: Here I am with you... My name is Rah... I am a philosopher and I am currently incarnated in Antares 4... I share the pain of all those people who need to get to the path of Light. To those people I say: Be patient, keep faith that your time will come. You are within God and God is within you. Time will come in which you will be fused in Him. There will not be a "final Judgment" but a Great Communion with the Father... There will not be major cataclysms in your planet, but great changes of consciousness. You must become aware and realize that you live in an extremely limited world... I just say to you: Take care of it! I share your pain and convey all my love... Rah spoke to you. Jorge Olguin: I am with you again... Horacio Embon: Are you aware of what is happening while the entity communicates through you? Jorge Olguin: Generally, yes. I remember most of the words that the entity pronounced. Horacio Embon: Do entities that you incorporate have any physical identity? Jorge Olguin: Yes. This entity, called Rah, which is not the first time I incorporate, is a philosopher who lives in Antares 4. Horacio Embon: What is Antares 4? Jorge Olguin: The worlds are designated by the name of their star. Thus, Antares 4 is the fourth planet of Antares. In our case, we are Sun 3. Horacio Embon: How is Rah physically? Jorge Olguin: Rah is an entity whose physical body could not live on our planet, because Antares 4 has a much lower atmospheric density, and would weigh less than 40 kilos (88 pounds) here on Earth. Rah, I mean his incarnated part, is an anthropomorphous being similar to us, a little smaller than the average human being, about 1.5 meter (5 feet) or a little less. Horacio Embon: Do they have sex? Jorge Olguin: Yes, of course. Rah is male. Not all beings from other worlds have sex. There are worlds where the vegetal life has dominated and there are worlds where mineral life has dominated. Horacio Embon: Do you believe in the Messiah? Jorge Olguin: I believe there are many people able of giving messages. I would be very selfish if I said that there is only one "savior message." In any case, I would say: Lets get towards the Service and we all are going to be saved. I can assure you this. Who devotes his life to Service, is saved. Horacio Embon: Thank you very much, Jorge Olguin. Best wishes. Jorge Olguin: For you too. |
| RADIAL SESSION - 28/Jul/1997 Interlocutor: Andrea Frigerio Program: “100% Andrea”, Radio Del Plata Entity that came to talk: Tar from Orion 4 Andrea: Let's talk with Professor Jorge Olguin, who says that he makes telepathic contacts with extraterrestrial entities and he can teach us about such contacts. Good morning, Professor Jorge Olguin. Jorge Olguin: Good morning. How are you? Andrea: Well, very well, luckily. How is this? Can we all make telepathic contacts with extraterrestrial entities? Jorge Olguin: It’s a matter of being able to develop mediumship, which we all have in ourselves. There are people who by distrust or disbelief do not develop that Divine gift. Andrea: What is mediumship? Jorge Olguin: mediumship is the power which enables us to develop a psychic perception to be able to communicate telepathically, not only with extraterrestrial entities, but with any disincarnated being. Andrea: What are disincarnated beings? Jorge Olguin: The theory of reincarnation says that there is no death, but a transmutation. On death, we leave our physical plane of vibration and go to a higher vibrational plane, which is what is commonly known as "the world of the spirits". Andrea: And you keep contact with disincarnated beings and aliens? Jorge Olguin: I need to clarify that communication with extraterrestrials does not take place with their physical part, but with their spiritual part. Most of the time they give us messages of love, positive messages. Andrea: How do you do that mediumship? Jorge Olguin: There is a previous preparation, where I harmonize physically and mentally to the person to be contacted. Then, one gets into a kind of trance, projecting impersonal love and finally an inspiration is made, visualizing a radiant light. One mentally "intents" that the spirit shows up, and automatically, the entity presents and speaks using the medium's voice. Then we become to be the "vessel". Andrea: What do they usually say? Jorge Olguin: That most popular messages lack veracity. That there is not going to be a Final Judgment, but a Great Communion with God, because if there is Divine Mercy there can be no eternal fire. They also say that most of the messages are discouraging. They predict planetary catastrophes, earthquakes, floods or total wars. But this will not be the case. There will be a big change, it’s true. But it’s going to be a change in consciousness in the human spirit. But we still have a long way to go to get there, because we don’t understand that our world is finite and we are depredating it. We have to understand that the Earth is a living organism. Don’t destroy that organism. It’s up to us to avoid that outcome announcing thoseapocalyptic prophecies. Andrea: When was the last time that you contacted an extraterrestrial entity? Jorge Olguin: I communicate on a regular basis in the sessions that we organize with the spiritual group. The sessions consist of a first part, a conference about a subject to deal with, and a second part where the telepathic contact takes place. In the conference, I explain that we are not the only inhabited world in the universe. Andrea: Are there any other inhabited worlds in the universe? Jorge Olguin: Yes, and I don’t only affirm this because it was dictated to me in the messages, but also because of common sense. Just think that only in our galaxy there are three hundred billion solar systems. Let’s suppose there is life in a small percentage, of a world in a million star systems, we would have a figure of three hundred thousand inhabited planets in the galaxy. In addition, there are billions of galaxies like ours in the universe. If God is the supreme wisdom, He is not going to create an infinite universe that only has life in a tiny planet. Andrea: Could you get into trance now? How would you do it? Jorge Olguin: First, One has to be involved in Love, harmonize and mentally "intent" for the entity to communicate. Andrea: Do we do it? Jorge Olguin: Yes, you listen and the entity will transmit the message. Andrea: We listen to you then. Tar: I speak to you not only to give you all my blessings, but to also let you know that the human race has a great mission. It’s the mission of twinning, the mission of staying in touch with each other and, above all things, to have a vocation of service. Do not think that service is only providing material support to a similar, because not everyone can do it. The service is to give your time, to offer you as a human being, to give that impersonal love that we all living creatures have, not only on Earth but also on all the planets in the known universe. That service is going to make daily life better, both for the people who give it as to those who receive it. Above all, what we have to offer is that impersonal love, disinterested, in order to ensure that the entire race rises in vibration. At present there is plenty of selfishness and tremendous ego. People are sensitive, take offense, and withdraw into themselves, they only think in their own grief and don’t think of the others’ pain. As my spiritual brother, Master Jesus, said two millenniums ago "Love each other". That is achieved when there is no ego at all. That is the message. My name is Tar; I am from Orion 4, my greetings and I leave you in the company of this vessel. Andrea: Now is Jorge Olguin communicating again? Jorge Olguin: Yes. The entity who was communicating is a millennial spirit and is not the first time that I receive him. On Earth, he was known as Thot (Hermes Trismegisto). He is an entity of another stellar system and, as you will have noticed, gives messages of love. I hope that all listeners become aware that Love is the only path towards global brotherhood. Andrea: Thank you very much, Professor Jorge Olguin. Jorge Olguin: It has been a pleasure and the main thing is to leave you a message of love from one human being to another human being. We always think about our problems and very few times on other's problems. To Love is not to need, to Love is to give. Let us begin to Love. Thanks. |
GROUP SESSION - 05/Jul/1997
Medium: Jorge R. Olguin
Entities that came to talk: Johnakan Ur-el
Interlocutor: Thank you Master, for your words... Who is going to communicate now?
Johnakan: First of all, I want to salute my brothers of Light. For those who don’t know me I am Johnakan Ur-el, I am in the 5th level of spiritual vibration and in a previous life I was John Zebedee, the beloved disciple and soul mate of Master Jesus. Let me clarify that love is mainly sacrifice that the incarnated being unfortunately learns through suffering. Most drag karmas, but please don’t take those karmas as a burden but as a bonus, as they are due lessons to be learnt from past lives. Don’t think that the road will be easy. Love is service. Once I said: "Serving others is to serve God". But the vision of the physical plane 1 is very limited.
The higher you are, the greater will be the tests. And exams will often be paid with tears. Of course Love is Service! But the reward is often pain. And not everyone is prepared to suffer. I know many people who talk about what they would give if they had the chance, but when the time comes, they back down. And they doubt, caught in a shameful hesitation.
Service is also giving love. And if the mission is helping with thoughts, don’t hesitate. But don’t think of giving to get a reward, because that would be speculating on the Good and would be fictitious. Neither expect a reward for good behavior.
God provides, always provides. But, as we have said in previous messages, "God does not want beggars, wants generous people". Then do not beg. God wants you to give Him.
Some will ask me, "How can I give to God?", and I respond: "Well, by giving to your fellow men".
- But I have nothing to give! Economically, I am broken.
- Don’t you have anything to give? You have your time, you have your mind, you have your heart to provide guidance! There, you are serving the Absolute! Then, the secret is not to doubt, the secret is unconditionally serve the Father. It's easy to talk about Service. The challenge is to carry out that altruistic work. We need to serve until the very end. I give the example of my beloved Master Jesus, who relegated himself, physically, to make way to his Word. And his spirit transcended his time. The little wisdom I had, at that time, on my modest eighteen years, I tried to imitate his behavior serving him conveying his messages. When I saw him nailed on the cross, my heart broke in pain. And I felt honored when he, before disincarnated, said, talking to his mother: "Woman, there you have your son," and then he said to me: "There you have your mother." From there on, my mission was to take care of that sublime woman, whom I loved like my real mother. If you are in function of service, you must love more every day. No matter the doubts you have. If you live with people trying to destabilize you, don’t engage in a discussion that only leads to failure. Your surroundings cannot turn you back. Try to conciliate situations. Look for harmony above all things. Avoid resentment, because that only hurts you... Just Love! Look for the truth and you will attain wisdom.
Nelida A.: How do you overcome surroundings conflicts?
Johnakan: Loving and not judging, avoiding the roles of the ego that always looks for starring, not assuming the role of victims of adversity, nor taking the role of judges sentencing beforehand who does not think like you. The ego can be integrated into the total conscience and this is accomplished by loving with all the forces of the spirit. It’s not easy, but it can be done.
Finally, I want to say that one of the things that shackle humans is fear of being authentic. If there is fear to be as you are, you are going to give a false image of you. Fear is the result of the ego, which compels the person to need. It’s important to realize that within each one there is a higher self, which is the spirit in all his purity. Thus, you may replace fear with love. Moreover, you must be certain in love. But to be certain of love you must practice it daily and make the Service a habit. But it’s necessary that you know that service may bring pain. You will not receive gratification from others. The reward will come from your own conscience. That will be the payment, feeling good yourself. I think that each of you will fall into new conflicts, over and over again. But eventually you will forward because your spirit is immortal and will know to discern between the brief triumphs and the real triumph, which is communion with the Father. Greetings with all my love and remember that you have an enormous responsibility to convey messages of Light. That’s the Joy of Serving.
Interlocutor: Thank you very much Johnakan and Good Bye.
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GROUP SESSION - 05/Jul/1997
Medium: Jorge R. Olguin
Entities that came to talk: Kether, from star 47 Ursae Majoris.
Interlocutor: Who is going to communicate?
Kether: With great joy I find myself here. I see a place where there is harmony; where there is Light and I know that many of the people who are here are in a high plane of vibration. I know you are in the spiritual quest and must not surrender while some are trying to disturb you. I inform you that through these meetings, at telepathic level, there is a pattern. Whenever there is a group meeting, where subjects related to the spiritual world are touched, the people involved in the search evolve one step, small or large. It depends on each one.
Interlocutor: What is your name?
Kether: In my world they know me as "The elder of rotations," although my name is Kether.
Interlocutor: Why do they call you like that?
Kether: Because since I started guiding my people, I always oriented them to value every planetary rotation. In my planet rotation is called to what you, on Earth, call day. At night, we go to bed thinking high in love to our fellow men and in the morning, when waking up, we watch with joy how our sun rises. Each new rotation convenes a ceremony of love. My people learned to thank the Creator for every rotation of physical life. For that reason they call me
"The elder of rotations”, although on your planet I would be "The elder of the days".
Interlocutor: What is the name of your planet?
Kether: It's called Ani.
Interlocutor: How is its lifestyle?
Kether: We respect the way of thinking of others, even if we don’t share it.
We give emphasis to philosophy. It has not always been so, because we have had many conflicts over the eons. Those conflicts have been surpassed, although we had to overcome our greed for power first. We have grown within us and we stopped being influenced by the surroundings. We gave priority to altruism.
Interlocutor: Did you leave technology aside?
Kether: No. Progress in science was parallel to the spiritual. Today we have the necessary technology to dominate the matter, but we are highly eager in relation to the spiritual. To demonstrate our technological power it would be to fall as prey of our own ego. In our world, the planet Ani, we are now in total harmony, but it cost a lot to achieve it. Many centuries ago, when I incarnated in Ani for the first time, there were differences in applying diverse policies and the planet was on the verge of an internal war. I managed, eventually, to get involved in the government of my world and I was appointed Elder. This appointment is an honorary title and has nothing to do with the person's age.
I was unable to avoid war but, after many rotations, I managed a truce between the two sides in conflict and so the signing of peace. Later on, when I disincarnated, I had the honor of being designated planetary Logos of Ani. Peace did not last longer in the planet, because centuries later a religious schism of large magnitude took place. From the spiritual levels of Light, we observed astonished and suffering, how rebellions began to take place in Ani. Revolts were on a planetary scale and riots caused thousands of deaths. After arduous deliberations in our spiritual level and by my request, it was decided that I re-incarnate to try to restrain that new conflict. It was the first time that a planetary Logos returned to the physical plane. This may seem a simple task, but remember that the person is born without the memory of previous incarnations. I could have been a simple peasant or a family man like many, and not being involved in anything. That’s in the best of cases. I know of spirits of Light who, when incarnate, were caught by material appetites. Fortunately, it was not my case. I grew up in a humble home learning through various old treaties. The religious schism continued. Upon completion of basic studies, I organized groups calling for peace, but riots did not diminish.
I investigated, during several planetary rotations, on the different religions of Ani. I talked to great masters of that time. They were obstinate and their stupidity made them to rely on what they already knew. They were closed to new paradigms. They ignored new guidelines, but slowly I was imposing my views, achieving the importance of spirituality rather than
religiosity. [31] I tried to disclose my word so that everybody could recover their common sense. Finally dogmas were left aside and ideas were combined bringing the end to the long-awaited peace. was appointed Elder and I preached Love to all inhabitants of Ani, moving to a definitive union of the planet. Currently Ani is a world of love, where all cooperate with each other. Technology is combined with philosophy. Knowledge is complemented with wisdom. Will is underpinned with perseverance. Finally I taught them to give thanks to the Absolute for each rotation, because a minute more of life is a minute more of Service.
Interlocutor: As you tell me, Ani reached the spiritual goal.
Kether: No, but we continue evolving. We are not yet prepared to form what is called the "planetary mind".
Interlocutor: What is the planetary mind?
Kether: It’s the merging of all thoughts, without the incarnated being losing his individuality. Everyone is aware of the shortcomings of the other. Each inhabitant of the planet could know who needs solidarity help and so provide it. This does not mean losing mental privacy, because each could "close his mind" when having something personal that he would not want to share: Having secrets is part of free will. We know another planet that is 25 light years from us, nearly 60 light years from you that managed the longed planetary mind.
Interlocutor: Are you incarnated at the moment?
Kether: Yes.
Interlocutor: You mean that this is a telepathic transmission from your planet?
Kether: Yes. My thetan communicates with the thetan of this vessel.
Interlocutor: How far away from Earth is your world Ani?
Kether: Ani is the 4th planet from the star 47 Ursae Majoris, is 35 light years from here.
Interlocutor: I understand... somebody else wants to ask you a question.
Kether: Okay.
Bautista B.: Do you know the planet Earth?
Kether: Yes, brother, we know it. We know its customs.
Bautista B.: And what do you think about us?
Kether: You have so much to give! And you are holding in more and more to your ego. You don’t share anything you have and, on the other hand, have eagerness for saving all material things, as if you were to take them to the other plane.
Bautista B.: I think we have not yet fully evolved as to reach perfection, but I am convinced that
within the next fifty years we will evolve spiritually as we have done in technology. We have
advanced a lot in genetic engineering and electronics.
Kether: Brother, growing spiritually depends solely on you. This is not the first time that you received the word. Once, two thousand years ago, you were shown the way. The only thing you did was to found religions for your own benefit. Did you know that most of the spiritual masters who have incarnated in mission have sent words of love and they were not understood? The current Solar Logos of your system, Master Jesus, has conveyed the message in a manner so sublime... However, the only thing he has achieved is that only a few understand him. This is because most of the people in this planet have used the message in a distorted way, to subject the masses and force their dependency. It has been said that each incarnated being is responsible for his own destiny, according to the attitude taking with his peers. It was explained that meanness would condemn you by delaying the path to the Light and that only altruism would lead you to the goal. In this present, those who believe in a Creator, only seek to communicate with Him through prayers asking for favors. It’s the concept that has been distorted! [32] Instead of becoming aware that suffering is the mainstay of spiritual elevation, you take it as a divine punishment. The Absolute does not punish. You change from spiritual vibration according to your actions: The meanness is ballast for the spirit. One can only rise by means of altruism. The ignorance of the incarnated being causes him to take wrong decisions. There is much unconsciousness in your race.
Interlocutor: Isn’t there too much cruelty?
Kether: Yes, unfortunately that negative emotion exists, because you hurt your peers. But you also hurt yourselves... That is unconsciousness. What are you doing today for your planet? Who does think of the future? Why are you not creating laws for birth control in regions where a new born does not survive for food shortages?
Bautista B.: What is the population of your planet Ani?
Kether: We are few compared with the Earth population, approximately two million people.
Bautista B.: I cannot understand how as a species you don’t multiply.
Kether: Brother, I cannot understand either why you are multiplying indiscriminately as a species.
Bautista B.: I understand your subtlety... Do you have prisons?
Kether: Prisons exist, but in the spirit of each being who makes a mistake.
Bautista B.: And how is that translate to our knowledge?
Kether: After one of our people committed a wrong action, both verbal and physical towards a similar, he locks himself up in a genuine repentance. He turns into himself and just contact others when his ego was integrated and is no longer a burden for him.
Bautista B.: I am sorry to insist, but what would the suffering be?
Kether: The suffering occurs when a person becomes aware of what he did and, seeing his mistake, groans for the brother assaulted. Many things are questioned, although not always the solution comes quick enough. Sometimes it takes whole rotations to realize that only love is worth and not aggression. There are spiritual conflicts that are never overcome with treatment. The very inner wisdom has to balance the inner self of that being. So that internal prison would be like a testing laboratory. Ego would send doses of arrogance and incomprehension, and the Divine Consciousness, which is in all of us, would send rays of Love. The secret is that we don’t have to destroy the ego, but
integrate it.
Bautista B.: What religion do you practice?
Kether: Ever since the religious schism was solved, we only practice to love the Absolute and, therefore, to love our resemblances.
Bautista B.: You recently talked about Master Jesus. Do you know him in your world?
Kether: I talked about Master Jesus because in your system he is the Solar Logos and I have communicated regularly with my brother of Light. I had contacted with the Master when I was disincarnated and was the planetary Logos of Ani.
Interlocutor: How do you communicate?
Kether: At telepathic level. There is no language, just ideas.
Bautista B.: How long do you live in your planet?
Kether: Nearly 120 planetary rotations, which are about 240 terrestrial years.
Interlocutor: That is to say that you live more than two terrestrial centuries?
Kether: Yes.
Bautista B.: And how old are you, Master?
Kether: Nearly 80 rotations.
Bautista B.: Excuse my audacity but, why do they call you Elder if according to our longevity as race
you are not so old?
Kether: That was already clarified. It’s not a qualifying adjective, but an honorary title.
Interlocutor: To draw a comparison, how many years are you technologically more advanced with
respect to us and what advantages do you have, to put it somehow, in the spiritual aspect?
Kether: We have made many scientific discoveries, but they are different technologies. I would not dare to speak of a world being more advanced than the other. And with regard to the spiritual aspect, I cannot say that there is an advantage of a civilization over the other, because each civilization plays a stage and you still have to learn not to be conditioned.
Bautista B.: You talked about different technologies and my question is: What subjects are more advanced?
Kether: For example, in interplanetary and interstellar teleportation. We developed an apparatus that transports a physical body from one point to another in the space in fractions of a second. The only requirement is to have a terminal at each base. We also have ships to visit other worlds.
Interlocutor: so, you have spaceships.
Kether: Yes.
Interlocutor: And morally, what would the advancement be?
Kether: Moral advance depends on each race. It's funny to note your curiosity for finding out about the advances of other races, so that you could compare them with your own. If my answer were that we are 100 years more morally advanced than you, I would be judging your conduct and that is not our position. One does not advance spiritually with knowledge, but with wisdom. All races have the footpath opened towards the paths of Light and depend on the inhabitants of each planet to become aware of what is really important. There are many who appreciate the material things and sometimes they are not to blame for having that way of thinking. Because they are valued for the goods they own. Your society gives more importance to material possessions than wisdom. Only a few become aware of what is the real value of the incarnated being in the physical plane.
Bautista B.: What is the surface of your planet?
Kether: It’s a bit smaller than Earth.
Bautista B.: I will insist on a topic. Why are so few people? I ask because it seems to me that two million is a small quantity...
Kether: Simply because we control the population.
Bautista B.: But, why birth control?
Kether: We don’t control it by selfishness, but the opposite. We know that our world is limited, both in space and in food. We don’t want to see our children suffering from hunger or having renewed fighting among them to conquer territories. If you allow me paying with words: I don’t understand why you don’t understand it. And I apology if I seem offensive. We love our world.
We fully use agriculture. Much of the surface is covered by water, seas, rivers, lakes. The continental surface has quite high mountainous chains. There are mountains of 26 thousand terrestrial meters high. The plateau is planted with various crops. We don’t have large cities, only small towns scattered throughout the globe. And we live in perfect harmony
Bautista B.: Obviously there are women...
Kether: Yes, there are women, there is sex and procreation.
Bautista B.: How long is the gestation period?
Kether: It lasts about three quarters of a planetary circumvallation.
Bautista B.: Is there any special reason for which you are so few inhabitants in your planet?
Kether: There is control. We don’t look for the cause.
Baptist B.: Who has such control?
Kether: Each one of us. Please, I want to clarify that there is no central authority that makes decisions for us. This I ratify it because I glimpse the intention of the question. As a rule, every family has two children, although there are some who come to have three. There are no prohibitions of any kind, just common sense...
Interlocutor: Obviously, in order to maintain the balance of population, you should have the same number of deaths than births.
Kether: Yes, in general.
Jorge B.: But, aren’t there any particular reasons for which there are so few in your world?
Kether: I am baffled to hear that you give so much importance to this issue. No, there is no particular reason. We are what we are and we enjoy working with each other. We also interchange culture with other worlds, providing our knowledge. It’s limitless the variety of worlds and their characteristics.
There is a world saturated with volcanoes, whose atmosphere is composed of sulfurous acid. Its inhabitants adapted perfectly in that habitat and the earth's climate would be completely hostile to them. There is another planet that is 200 light years from the center of the galaxy, where there is a big black hole. [33] This planet has about 5 billion beings. It’s a world entirely technocratic. To put it in your terms "living for work", where practically working never stops, like ants, your insects. And there is another planet that is nearly deserted; it’s a world where there are no more than 500 inhabitants. In this world, every one of its inhabitants has kilometers of land just for themselves. They respect their privacy very much and avoid personal contact.
Interlocutor: And how do they communicate?
Kether: They communicate among themselves through viewfinders. Virtually, those beings live more than two thousand of what you call "years". However, they do not multiply and practically their relationship between them is null. They are beings who have little personal contact with high solitude. And it’s not because they lock in meditating or because they are high spiritually, but because they are afraid of each other. Interlocutor: Fear?
Kether: Yes, fear. It causes them terror thinking about touching among them. They dislike the idea of seeing each other personally. Therefore, they communicate through viewfinders. But those viewfinders are very sophisticated and provide a holographic image of the interlocutor. Obviously, these beings do not need to mate for procreation. You asked me earlier about birth control. There is a world, a little bit bigger than your planet, where 50 billion beings live in a crowded situation working and not worrying about the spiritual growth. They are like mechanical apparatus.
Interlocutor: As if they had no soul?
Kether: The soul is inherent to the being... the soul is that being. But not everyone becomes aware of having an internal spirit. That planet is a clear example. Each world has its own peculiarities and it’s impossible to analyze the reason for the different customs. I hope that some day the galactic union could be achieved and that each world could provide others the help needed whether spiritual, moral or technical. Help to avoid conflict, to avoid wars, help so that each planet learns to live in love, so that each individual would not have internal conflicts and could find the path of Elevation. We don’t need anything else to communicate with the Absolute. In addition, I want to explain something very important that you ignore: why was Master Jesus appointed Solar Logos of this system and not others who were also nominated, as Cambion, which is a high entity of the 5th spiritual vibration or Nurbion, a so altruistic spirit who always thinks of the well-being of others. They are spirits unknown to you because they never incarnated and were collaborating in the different planes of Error. Both Cambion and Nurbion are currently working in the spiritual planes 2 and 3, reversing conflicts on an ongoing basis. But Jesus, aside from being merciful with his brothers, did something else: he conveyed a message of love to all terrestrial humanity. In the spiritual planes, that message went beyond the boundaries of your world, and many teachers from other planets knew to champion of Love. I cannot emphasize enough Jesus' special charisma, which, together with a spirit of sacrifice and kindness, makes him an incomparable figure. That influenced the choice and I confirm you that the spiritual direction of the solar system is in the best possible hands. One can serve for reflection, serve for custom, serve for obligation, serve for speculation, serve for mandate, but not all serve for Love. The secret is to serve for Love. This is what, Master Jesus, the present Solar Logos of your system, taught. Do you have another question?
Benji B.: How are the cities on your planet?
Kether: They are small towns with low buildings, with many bushes and lots of vegetation. We love plants, we live with plants. We also have what you call "animals", beings with smaller discernment;
we live with them in perfect harmony.
There are two or three other ethnic groups of people who don't live with us. They are what you call "wild". They live in the mountains, but each day, they become more adapted to us. And it will come a day when all the inhabitants of Ani will live in harmony.
Eduardo L.: Do you know if planet Earth has extraterrestrials coexisting with us?
Kether: At least two races coexist with you and are hidden to the public knowledge. It seems hard to believe, but it’s true.
Karina T.: I would like to know what artistic development you have in Ani.
Kether: We mainly work with images. Although we are morphologically similar to you in many ways, the images we represent are completely different. On Earth you would call them "statues". We work with circles, curves, in a sort of art expression that you would catalogue as incongruous. We don’t specialize in painting, but we love both the art of clay and stone. We carve ovoid and spherical images, with holes where you can insert images. We make very beautiful objects, always from our point of view. Perhaps you would see our artistic work as strange figures and senseless.
Carlos G.: Are you giving any particular message to us at this meeting?
Kether: The message should not be just for a particular group, but for all terrestrial humanity. But it depends on you whether you want to be responsible for spreading my words. I want to tell you not to take the spiritual quest as a goal. Try to enjoy the same search. Ignore religions that give sacrificial offerings, because the Absolute does not demand any sacrifice.
Do not pay attention to a message that conditions or imposes dogmas. Do not pay attention to those words that hurt susceptibilities. Only transmit what it serves to become aware that we are all brothers. There should be no credo that separates us, as it should not be a competition to get first to the top of the Light. Is more valuable that person who delays his own advancement to try to help the ones left behind. Very few people have this in mind. A lot of arrogance is still seen in human beings. People continue measuring their resemblance by their economic power. There is much lack of word of honor and, even worse, they try to ridicule those who want to convey a spiritual message. You all have conflicts, but you must be honest with yourselves.
You should not pretend having a nonexistent harmony or hiding the conflict in the unconscious. It must just be integrated. There are others who have an ego so big that feed it with praise to disguise themselves as altruistic. Some are dominated by envy and do not realize that a negative emotion eats their inside away. Don’t let the ego take control of you. Make that envy get transformed into cooperation, but really cooperation from the heart. Doubts must be transformed into certainties. Try to find your own truth within yourselves. Thus, the internal conflict will disappear and you will achieve true harmony. You will have at your fingertips the long-awaited Light The step forward is simple... you must only stop thinking as protagonists and pay more attention to the shortcomings of others, and try to solve them. But it’s necessary that everyone be sincere with oneself, that each recognizes their own shortcomings and makes their goal replace them with the intention of being better each time. We are here not to overcome evil, but to transmute it into service to others. Don’t believe that you are infallible. Just when everyone is in communion with the Highest, we will be infallible. Think that in the meantime, even reaching the level of Master, we have weaknesses, because we are beings created by the uncreated one, who is the only infallible one. Now, I am going to transmit to you harmony to your spirit. Please, close your eyes. Imagine an incandescent sphere, shedding bluish white light on your heads. It’s the Light of the Absolute, which spills over your entire body covering your internal and external parts, all your organs. Imagine now a golden light, the light of Christ, which fills with joy and plunges into ecstasy. Now, visualize a violet light, the light that sends Master Johnakan to transmute all negative that could remain. The three rays, working together, are going to connect your field of consciousness with your Higher Self, achieving a perfect harmony. Breathe deep; looking for the connection with your higher self, where is the real wisdom. We all have a goal. That goal is to be integrated with the Absolute. The Absolute is within us, but since we rarely look inside ourselves, we don’t know how to recognize Him. Greetings with all my love and hoping you have assimilated the message.
[31] In a structured society, it’s very difficult to achieve that mystical spiritualism prevails over religious dogma. We know that any doctrine conditions the way of thinking.
[32] Traditional religions put in front their dogmas to the true spiritual teaching, making parishioners to believe that the grace of God will redeem them, to the selfish as to the altruistic, and thus misrepresenting the main objective of spiritual elevation: Service.
[33] One year after this session, it was ratified what Kether told us. On June 12, 1998, the astronomer Andrea Ghez, of the University of California, detected a black hole in the center of the galaxy, the Milky Way, supported by the largest optical/infrared telescope of the world, located in Hawaii.
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