THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN QUANTUM MEDICINE AND QUANTUM
HEALING
SESSION 13/DEC/02
Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.
Entity that came to dialogue: Johnakan
Ur-El.
Johnakan Ur-El: Here I am with you once again...
Interlocutor: How are you, Master?
Johnakan Ur-El: Always working on mission... In the latter period that you
would call two months, I worked with the Master Jesus with a tremendous joy for
the Service we are doing and as well with a tremendous pity to see such
lassitude, such indifference in most people. It’s truly regrettable to see how
many people have their minds crammed with false information.
I was witnessing what you were asking to my brother Ruanel about Alchemy. When you both talked about this
beloved Master, who embodied many centuries ago, I mean Fulcanelli, who was referring to the possible physical
transmutation of metals; actually he was not so wrong. He was wrong about the
elements though. There are two metals that are very important, which are silver
and gold, which have vibrational properties, where if you lean the silver and
gold on certain meridians vortexes... because you know that you have 7 energy
centers called chakras, but what you don’t know is that there are 21 chakras in
fact. And you have hundreds and hundreds of meridians, meridian points in acupuncture.
If you lean, as in Reflexology, on the soles of the feet, on anywhere
in the body, gold or silver, you can transmute health problems in the physical
part, because there will be a greater flow of energy in the etheric field, in
the astral field, in the energy field.
Interlocutor: Okay, this is clear... But what happens to the higher
self, Thetan, or 90% spirit? Is there any
transmutation?
Johnakan Ur-El: No, because this therapy has to do exclusively with the
physical part.
Johnakan Ur-El: Homeopathy has a large percentage of the placebo
effect.
Interlocutor: Is Homeopathy valid or
not?
Johnakan Ur-El: It is valid to a certain extent. In fact, the herbs give more
health to the physical body, so to speak, I mean,-well-crafted herbs than
homeopathy. There are many people who take pellets, and they take them all the
time because they are addicted to the pellets, pellets of anything, and we
perceive them the same, without any improvement.
Interlocutor: How do you perceive them?
Johnakan Ur-El: I, for example, am permanently connected to the causal body
of hundreds of people... but I'm not invading their privacy, I am just helping
them.
Interlocutor: I understand...
Johnakan Ur-El: And there's something that has a power or gift, whatever you
want to call it, to transmit greater healing energy than gold and silver. I’m
referring to gems. And there are two very important gems, which are quartz
citrine and amethyst. Amethyst is a great healer gem. And there are other quartz
gems that also heal. So, what quantum healing does, according to the problem of
each person, is to seek in which meridian the current doesn’t flow- there are
instruments to find it- and the famous Regis Duthail,
currently embodied in France, has achieved it with the gynecological part of the
women.
There is another device developed by another Frenchman, but in the
U.S., which reads out the whole body energy flow.
Quantum healing is working with these gems by placing them on certain
parts of the physical body, on these meridians, so that there is more energy
circulation. With greater energy circulation, certain illnesses, which can be
psychogenic, psychosomatic, or directly physical, can be reversed to a certain
extent.
Interlocutor: But Can they heal literally
speaking?
Johnakan Ur-El: No, they don’t heal, but they modify certain cells that are
degenerated, even a cancerous tumor.
Interlocutor: Only applying the gem on a certain
place?
Johnakan Ur-El: That’s right.
Interlocutor: Is this just the beginning? Or Is it already a fully
developed technique?
Johnakan Ur-El: It's only beginning.
Interlocutor: I received an email from a person interested on Quantum
Integral medicine, asking for its validity. And the difference from quantum
healing, which is a book written by Deepak Chopra. She
also adds: “…founded in Mexico by Kardem project,
whose main representative is Marla...". Another thing is if this Quantum
Integral Medicine comes from aliens...
Johnakan Ur-El: I disqualify that completely, since it was not created in
Mexico by this person named Marla. Quantum Medicine was developed by serious
scientists. There are always pseudo- channelers who
are used to steal the discoveries from others.
Interlocutor: Does this person, Marla,
channel?
Johnakan Ur-El: Yes, She channeled but, misrepresenting
everything.
Interlocutor: Who can be called, then, as the father of Quantum
Medicine?
Johnakan Ur-El: Well, we can say that the parents are two Frenchmen, one of
them you have already mentioned, Regis Duthail, who
later on moved to the United States...
Interlocutor: And the name of the other
Frenchman?
Johnakan Ur-El: I'd have to find it out because it is currently unavailable.
Remember that we, despite the very high plane in which we are, don’t know
everything at once, because the plane has also limitations.
Interlocutor: Yes, I was aware of that... Concretely, the aliens have
nothing to do with this issue of Quantum Medicine?
Johnakan Ur-El: No, absolutely not. Don’t underestimate the terrestrial
scientists...
Interlocutor: The person who wrote to me makes a difference between
Quantum medicine and Deepak Chopra’s quantum healing... what is she talking about?
Johnakan Ur-El: Deepak Chopra works on a completely different way. Some
things that this being says, although are aimed at many things, have a relative
validity because his method of healing is based on food. Quantum Healing, in
fact, is a distortion of quantum medicine, to say the least. With this statement
I’m not misrepresenting quantum healing, but between them there is a huge
difference.
Interlocutor: What is Quantum Healing based
on?
Johnakan Ur-El: It is based on food, lifestyles, diets, homeopathy, salts.
Interlocutor: But that would not be bad!
Johnakan Ur-El: It would be nice, but it has nothing to do with quantum
medicine, which applies gems on the meridians. I want you to understand this
concept: Quantum medicine, I mean with gems, is the original. And quantum
healing, which is also quantum medicine it’s as a secondary derivative of that
treatment, but it doesn’t produce the same results. Such as Shiatsu, Reiki,
Acupuncture... They are, somehow, quantum medicine, because with Acupuncture, he
who knows how to touch the meridians is making the energy flow. But the original quantum Medicine is based on
gems.
I'm not discrediting everything that has nothing to do with quantum
Medicine gems, but I’m simply making the differentiation between
them.
Interlocutor: I understand perfectly the point... Then, Is the
Quantum Integral Medicine which is being developed in Mexico valid or
not?
Johnakan Ur-El: If they don’t use gems, or if they are used and they mix the
therapy with channeling, we must discard them completely, because it has nothing
to do with the original quantum medicine. In addition, quantum medicine and
channeling would be like mixing two different things.
Interlocutor: A while ago we approached the topic about Homeopathy,
which was pending. Specifically, what value does it have? I ask it because many
years ago, I went to a homeopath because I wanted to lose weight and he
prescribed me a product based on amphetamines, which is something
nonsensical...
Johnakan Ur-El: These are false homeopaths.
Interlocutor: But let’s suppose that someone asks me about
homeopathy...Would I recommend it?
Johnakan Ur-El: I value everything that has to do with herbal treatment, but
I’m referring to a serious treatment. There are healing herbs, there are
sedative herbs, there are herbs that increase power, such as Ginseng, and Ginkgo biloba
...
Interlocutor: But do they have something to do with
homeopathy?
Johnakan Ur-El: They have nothing to do with homeopathy! Homeopathy is 20%
real, when properly applied by a serious homeopath, and 80% is placebo
effect.
Interlocutor: Specifically, if a person has engramic problems, he/she must go through Dianetics, not to the
homeopath...
Johnakan Ur-El: Totally.
Interlocutor: Now I have a question about Psychointegration: A person who is crawling due to the
amount of restimulated engrams he/she has. Would
he/she find the solution through Psychointegration?
Johnakan Ur-El: Yes, and I'm going to explain it. Just as there is no
therapist capable to cure an alcoholic, a drug addict or a smoker, if the
patient does not allow the therapist to help him. With Psychointegration happens exactly the same thing, however,
if a person has a tremendous apathy, tremendous indifference and seeks simply to
browse Psychointegration, he/she will leave it after
the first session and he/she won’t apply it in his/her daily life, because
that's the point.
Recently, a person you know contacted you via
email...
Interlocutor: I was going to ask you about this
person...
Johnakan Ur-El: Well, he came to a session with this vessel to be treated
with Psychointegration and he left euphoric, like a
little kid with a new toy, because he felt that he was very comfortable, very
restrained, but he didn’t return. There are some people, like in this case, who
are controlled by the ego and the ego itself, seeing that psychointegration is a therapy that can integrate the ego,
will do everything possible to prevent this from happening. The ego has a great
survival mechanism.
Interlocutor: Just like the automatic reactive
mind?
Johnakan Ur-El: Yes, both are reactive minds! Why do you think the ego is so
difficult to eradicate? Due to the mechanism of survival that it
has!
Interlocutor: But this is the first time we said it! Although I
should have guessed it before, because it’s definitely a reactive
mechanism.
Johnakan Ur-El: It's a logical thing! The ego manipulates the human being.
The ego whispers to the ear, and I say "whispers" to explain it in a graphical
way: "Go away from here, you will not achieve anything from this." And at the
same time, the spirits of error and ludic energies, seeing that the person is so
weak, they suggest: "That part of yours is right; they want to turn you into a
zombie." Obviously, I’m speaking figuratively. And they persuade the person so
that...
Interlocutor: I understand the idea
perfectly...
Johnakan Ur-El: And who is the greatest ally of the spirits of error, the
ludic energies, the demons and the ego of the person? Well, the same person!
Because the person gives them a place. Answering your question, if you're
someone who wants to move ahead, well, you’ll go through Psychointegration and you'll be looking to the goal of Light
and your mind will not be deviated from your purpose and you will end up
healed.
Interlocutor: Well, this issue is clear
enough...
Email received:
I
would like to know the opinion of Grupo Elron about Deepak Chopra, whose teachings are disseminated
through countless books, followed by millions of people across the world, but
curiously are disowned by his own colleagues.
J.F
Dear Friend: I’m going to be brief and concise to inform you that
this person is a "well-educated charlatan," since he has been cataloged like
that before, although it’s not easy to explain why he is a
charlatan.
The problem is that all his work is full of generalities, clichés,
too familiar medical advice, some effective methods, others not so effective and
others quite absurd, and well-known spiritual teachings, directly misrepresented
or outdated. Just by using your common sense you will realize that many of the
things Deepak Chopra says are completely rhetorical and aimed to deceive many
people. What else can be said about him?
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