THE BLACK POPE

The Truth About The Jesuits and The Black Pope

After the foundation of the Society of Jesus by Ignatius of Loyola, the Jesuits have been considered a powerful sect inside Catholicism. The book “Vatican Assassins” written by Eric Jon Phelps describes the count Hans Kolvenbach as the most powerful man in the World, who is even above the Vatican and the government of the United States. The book also explains that the Jesuits are behind the assassinations of the most important figures like John F. Kennedy and Martin Luther King. Is there something real about this?

IS THERE A BLACK POPE BEHIND THE PAPAL THRONE?

SESSION 21/OCT/03

Medium: Jorge Olguin

Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont

Entity that came to dialogue: Johnakan Ur-El

Interlocutor: The first question I have is related to the so-called “Black Pope”, a name that obviously has nothing to do with the skin color but to the “maximum boss” of the Jesuits. I extracted from the Internet a news report made by the journalist Rick Martin to Eric Jon Phelps, author of the book "Vatican Assassins", this book has to do with the Count Hans Kolvenbach, as the Superior General of the Jesuits, and who is considered as the power behind the Pope, the president of the United States and even the Mafia, pulling the threads. Concretely, he says that the Jesuits are behind all the important assassinations such as the president Lincoln, the Pope John Paul I (Albino Luciani) who died thirty three days after his election, the president John F. Kennedy, Martin Luther King, etc.

Johnakan Ur-El: There are groups of Jesuits that look for the power itself. They have lust for power.

Interlocutor: Does somebody called Hans Kolvenbach exist? who is the Superior General of the Jesuits?

Johnakan Ur-El: He exists, but this person has nothing to do with the Black Pope that Phelps is referring to. It is only a delusion of the author.

Interlocutor: Isn’t there any other parallel Pope more powerful than the Pope himself? I mean to the current Pope.

Johnakan Ur-El: No, there is nothing. The book is a total insanity.

Interlocutor: Then, What is the truth about Eric Jon Phelps and his book “Vatican Assassins”?

Johnakan Ur-El: There is a Jesuit sect that wants to take control over the religious power, but not for desire of wealth, but they want to spread a more rigid doctrine that the current doctrine. And you know that the current doctrine is strict!

Interlocutor: Is there a powerful sect that manipulates the Pope, the United States, the Mafia, etc., etc.?

Johnakan Ur-El: This is nothing more than a blunder. There are bishops and cardinals who are inside that sect. But they don't have that power. They only have influences. In these moments the Pope is very weak, his mental decoder almost destroyed, and naturally he is being influenced by his entourage. He has such big ego that instead of abdicating and taking care of his health, he wants to continue until the last consequences.

Interlocutor: In what spiritual plane is he?

Johnakan Ur-El: In the plane 3. He is a spirit of error.

Interlocutor: Will he descend of level when he disembodies?

Johnakan Ur-El: No, because in fact he thinks that what he does is correct.

Interlocutor: This author I mentioned says concretely that the Jesuits were those that conspired against Kennedy since he wanted to stop the war in Vietnam, because they wanted to continue this war with the excuse that they could not convert the Vietnamese to Christianity, because they followed the Buddhist religion, then they preferred to exterminate them.

Johnakan Ur-El: That is completely absurd, because in Vietnam there are not as many Buddhists as in other countries. There are more Buddhists in India, in China, in Japan, in Tibet. What happens is that this author, as many others, he has mixed truths with fantasies. And we already know that in these cases it is necessary to discard totally what he says.

Interlocutor: Excuse me if I insist, because I don't want to leave any doubt: Concretely, there is no Black Pope, no Superior General commanding all the world, and the Jesuits are not behind the murders of the leaders of the world, Am I right?

Johnakan Ur-El: No, there is nothing like that, not even closer. To dominate the world one would have to have a tremendous arsenal of weapons.

Interlocutor: The only thing I can think of is that the spirits of error have influenced enormously to Eric Jon Phelps and his book was influenced directly by them.

Johnakan Ur-El: Of course, the spirits of error have been behind!

Interlocutor: Well, this is clear. I already suspected that something like that could happen. It was illogical.