PHYSICAL LIFE
SESSION 30/APR/2012
Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin
Interlocutor:
Karina
Entity that came to dialogue: Master
Morganel
Interlocutor: We will hold a session contacting with the Master Morganel. Welcome
Morganel:
Thank you.
Interlocutor: How are you?
Morganel:
I’m glad to be here
Interlocutor: It's good to hear you.
Morganel:
I send to you all the Light, dear sister. I feel happy, joyful to talk to you
through this vessel, whose Thetan is my spiritual
brother.
Interlocutor: We truly missed your messages and I appreciate very
much that you are here with us. Would you like to tell us something? I have some
questions we can start with.
Morganel:
You can start and ask the questions, dear sister.
Interlocutor: Feel comfortable then, this is a
conversation
Morganel:
Totally, totally.
Interlocutor: What is your opinion about life? What is life for
you?
Morganel:
Are we talking about physical life?
Interlocutor: Yes
Morgan-El: For you all physical life is a mystery because, suddenly,
an inanimate object can reproduce, grow, feel. Let us temporarily ignore about
the spiritual world, where we know that every being, even the smallest being has
a thetan.
Physical life is a series of combinations that are suitable so that
they allow that a fraction of the spirit embodies, and that fraction of the
spirit is the one that gives life. But it’s not so
simple as it sounds because there are inanimate particles, like a rock in which
a spirit has no place to embody there.
Many times you have heard that in order that a 10% spirit could
embody, it’s necessary a…
Interlocutor: A biological unit?
Morganel:
…A biological unit, but it’s also necessary a suitable mental decoder to
transmit a certain concept. It was said, but very rarely, and perhaps you have
not taken into account that whenever you speak about spiritual entities you
speak about complex spiritual entities.
Interlocutor: You mean complex spiritual
entities...
Morganel:
To which I would add the term conceptual
Interlocutor: ... those are the entities that embody in biological
units that have a more developed cortex.
Morganel:
Correct. During a time of your world, you didn’t have a developed cortex, but we
also embodied although our learning, as spiritual entities, was to experience
through that biological unit that perhaps was not aware of his actions
completely and his actions were based on instinct because his reactive mind was
95%...
Interlocutor: The reactive mind was
dominant
Morganel:
It was a dominant reactive mind over the analytical mind. But it also allowed
the incarnation.
Interlocutor: In any case, it was necessary that this should happen
this way because otherwise there would be no evolution and there would be no
species as we have today and there would be no man as
well.
Morganel:
Correct. But I wanted to go for another route. There are other spirits less
conceptual in the superphysical planes, so-to-speak,
and spirits that have almost zero for concept. And maybe this is a new paradigm
that says: In the physical plane the 'wilder' the being was the more reactive
mind the hominid had in the amygdala and less analytical mind he had. Is that
understood?
Interlocutor: Yes
Morganel:
The spirits that have almost null concept are based on instinct as well. Let’s
say: The spirit is an energy that has a conceptual core and you yourself, in the
physical plane, if you have that gift or that ability to concentrate, you can
see the spirits as traces of light, unless they want to present themselves in an
anthropomorphic way to be recognized. But there are spirits whose conceptual
center hardly exists and it’s an energy center. And that energy is an
instinctual energy. The more abstract the mind is, the greater the spiritual
concept. The less abstract the mind is, the concept is more instinctive, if you
understand that phrase.
So obviously, the spirit of the homo sapiens in your world, where I’m
incarnated as a spirit, has a wider conceptual mind. The spirit of a fly, for
instance, is almost instinctive, just like the spirit of a worm. And so on. Even
the smallest microorganisms have a thetan.
Interlocutor: Could you give us any comment about something we do not
know about the undivided mind?
Morganel:
Yes, of course. We, as spiritual beings, are part of the Everything, to whom many of you call the Father, God, the Absolute. We, as
Masters, call him Eon. Eon is the Everything in this Universe. Eon is the
manifested universe and we are his particles. All our thoughts belong to us
thanks to the divine Free Will, but that does not mean that they don’t belong
also to God, the Father, the Absolute, Eon.
As spirits, we have the ability to perceive through the divine
Essence of the Father, the total thought. Obviously with our own limitations, as
spiritual beings that we are, as well as our 10% spirits embodied in biological
units.
Interlocutor: There are two possibilities: two individuals that don’t
know each other and who live in different parts suddenly have the same idea,
Could it be that their thetans are in contact with
each other?
Morganel:
It is easier that both of them have grasped the idea, which is 'floating' in the
superphysical planes.
Interlocutor: I have always maintained…and I would like that you
could give me your opinion- that the man has human knowledge, skills and
experiences, given his experience in this physical plane. That knowledge can be
proved of refuted by physical evidence, in some cases it becomes scientific
knowledge and in other cases it’s demystified.
Morganel:
Correct. If it’s refuted it’s demystified.
Interlocutor: But I always believed that there is a universal
knowledge, which goes beyond our own existence as human beings. The second
possibility would be that these two individuals perceive that knowledge and -
let’s say that they live in two opposite-islands-. Would it be something like
what you mean?
Morganel:
Yes. That’s correct. It is knowledge that exist
Interlocutor: Somewhat Latent.
Morganel:
Latent but contained in the Father Eon. And you have the gift, we have the gift, the ability, the quality to grasp it
at once or not necessarily at the same time. And sometimes, it can be that
–giving an understandable example- two separate people by miles from each other
can reach the same discovery.
Interlocutor: They reach the same
conclusion.
Morganel:
They reach the same conclusion regarding a particular topic. Yes, That’s
it.
Interlocutor: So, you confirm that what I thought that there is
greater knowledge than us as a species. I mean that it exist in the superphysical planes
and, somehow, we're going to rediscover it, being like a discovery for us.
Actually the idea, the concept already exists.
Morganel:
Yes, It’s a rediscovery.
Interlocutor: When we are being prepared some people will perceive
that concept. Is that so?
Morganel:
Yes, right. When you have found your size, your suit fits you, if you understand
what I mean, dear sister.
Interlocutor: Perfect. After this we will continue investigating,
asking about this idea, and perfecting it. But we already know where the idea
comes from.
What do you think about the life-span of the species? Obviously there
have been many advances in DNA studies, but there are many issues yet to be
discovered. Is there something we are missing about the duration of the
species?
Morganel:
I understand that in each world, biologists are studying genetics and they can
be discovering the reason for the duration of each individual of every race and
every race in particular. What they are already envisioning in your world, Sun
3, where my 10% is embodied, is that they can measure the life-span of each
biological unit.
What they have not yet discovered was revealed many years ago by this
vessel. That is, the life-span of the species, of every race. And that's not in
the DNA, but in the RNA, the ribonucleic acid. This is a topic to be deepened
further and I invite you, if you want to, dear sister, to hold an in-depth
session only to talk about this topic because it is an issue that will take some
time.
Interlocutor: It is a very interesting
topic.
Morganel:
Yes, it is. So that people know how…
Interlocutor: … how the process is.
Morganel:
... How the process is and why some species become sterile and why some other
species are still evolving.
Interlocutor: It will be perfect,
then...
Morganel:
Perhaps for a future session.
Interlocutor: A future session. Another question: we, as individuals
who live in this world, sometimes we see the light of a distant star and when we
perceive that light in that moment, perhaps that star is no longer there. I
mean, the speed of light, given the distance we are talking about, perhaps this
star or comet is no longer there. We perceive the light, but perhaps the star
now is no longer there.
Morganel:
Let’s talk about a star that, according to the distance may have become a
supernova or a neutron star and here in Sun 3, you are still perceiving that
light or your telescope grasps the light due the great distance that separates
you from it.
Interlocutor: Now, if we observe the universe and - According to our
scientists- we observe that the universe is still expanding, the question I have
is: Is it possible that the universe has already begun to contract at some
point? That at some place that contraction has begun, in the same way that the
star is no longer there, but now we see it as a matter of time that it takes
time to perceive the image. Is it possible that the universe is beginning to
contract and we are still seeing the expansion? I do not know if you understand
my question.
Morganel:
I understood your question totally. Perfect. My answer is: NO. But that No means
that due to the incidence of the dark energy, the universe is expanding even
rapidly. This is something that scientists are recently realizing it, something
that this vessel has said many years ago. But why do I also added the “But”
Because the universe is the 10% of Eon manifested and it does not expand in a
perfect way because the Chaos -and excuse me if I name it to you- somehow has an
incidence, it’s not that it offers resistance, because the Nothingness cannot
resist the expansion, but there are places where there is a kind of resistance
to the expansion and there are borders that are fit inward in the expanding
universe -I say it in a very basic way so that you understand the
concept-
Interlocutor: A kind of cracks?
Morganel:
No cracks, but points of contraction, like pleats, but they are minimal. It
doesn’t mean that that part is not expanding, it only delays the accelerated
expansion, but there is a kind of contraction until the same inertia that comes
from behind pushes back again the same universe and the expansion continues. But
there are parts where the expansion is delayed. But no, the time for the
contraction of the universe has not yet come.
Interlocutor: Are we there yet?
Morganel:
The universe needs thousands and even billions of years until the dark matter
starts working and the process of contraction begins, the contraction of the
universe will be also accelerated, in order to provoke a new Big Crunch or a new
singularity, where the Absolute will stop being manifested until a new Creation
appears again to be manifested.
Interlocutor: Is there artificial life in other
worlds?
Morganel:
Science has advanced so much that in your world, Sun 3,
there is what you call Prosthesis. I don’t speak about organ transplants, but
artificial prostheses. And even some scientists are experimenting -and this may
be a scoop- with synthetic DNA. Not only here, on Sun 3. They are experimenting
with artificial DNA in other worlds more advanced technologically and
biologically. There are great genetic breakthroughs already, where people have a
brain problem, as Johnakan Ur-El use to call it mental
decoder, and they have reversed moderate and severe neurological problems
through artificial DNA. It may be very difficult to explain even to this vessel,
but they have replaced atrophied neurons by neurons created from artificial
DNA.
Interlocutor: And this is from stem
cells?
Morganel:
No, directly with chains of deoxyribonucleic acid that artificially in Sun 3 is
called AXN –They reached to create large neural networks that go directly to
completely modify a neural system in a mental decoder.
Interlocutor: What would be the messenger RNA.
Morganel:
The messenger RNA is used to take and bring information back and forth directly,
because it is a smaller replica than the DNA -but what I'm talking about is
artificial DNA- something that has been achieved by many species. Obviously this
artificial DNA has an artificial messenger RNA that would be a replica
of...
Interlocutor: I studied a lot in this life something I love and I
cannot assimilate. And, well, I've been studying about the issue and I have a
theory about RNA, which I always considered it as an exact copy of the DNA, it
lacks of some amino acids and that is why it allows it to leave or pass through
the membrane of the nucleus and then in the cytoplasm, possibly with the input
from the function of mitochondrion and other cytological elements, becomes
activated, with those amino acids that are missing, and complete the chain to be
exact to the DNA that is within the nucleus. That is why they no longer can pass
through the nuclear membrane.
Morganel:
The key is also in the mitochondrion, but that topic, which also has to do with
the life-span of the species, we will approach it in the next session. Notice
that the fact that in some worlds there is artificial DNA allows the possibility
of achieving complete artificial life because if you can 'manufacture'
artificial cells, made by biological units which in turn fabricate biological
units...
Interlocutor: Obviously one would have the basis for the development
of tissues that will form the basis for the development of organs and perhaps,
at some point, instead of having prosthetic legs or arms we would have
artificial limbs, but with human appearance.
Morganel:
Actually they would not be artificial...
Interlocutor: Created by the man.
Morganel:
Of course. Sure. And finally, in order to not exhaust so much to the vessel,
your religion, because not in all the worlds there are religions. Religion would
say that it’s unnatural because it would be against the "divine laws". It is a
big mistake, because life is spiritual and not physical. Then, as it was
anticipated many years ago by the brother Johnakan
Ur-El, all the biological units that have a mental decoder unit to accommodate a
10% of the spirit would allow life.
Interlocutor: Perfect.
Morganel:
Sister, it was a joy to talk to you.
Interlocutor: I enjoyed very much to share this conversation with
you.
Morganel:
And you know that there are many things that have been-left pending. Ha ha!
Interlocutor: But there are always many issues that we will be able
to talk about.
Morganel:
And that's very valuable. Isn’t?
Interlocutor: Yes, and all the information that you can provide, from
your experience as a Thetan, and all your knowledge
and all your memories you have. So your input is very
valuable.
Morganel:
All the Light from my plane 5 sublevel 9 and also to your thetan, Kar-El, my sister, plane 6
sublevel 5. Thank you.
Interlocutor: All the Light to you and for your 10%. So
long.
Session about Virus and Prions
SESSION 12/MAY/2009
Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin
Entity that came to dialogue: Master
Ruanel
Ruanel:
Scientists are still thinking in biology whether the virus is a form of life or
not. Many people say: “No because it has no nucleus and it cannot reproduce by
itself, since it requires a host to be replicated” They are right. Other people
say: “Yes, if it has life it can reproduce, because a rock cannot reproduce by
itself" They are also right.
This means that the virus is between ‘life’,
as biologists know it, and organisms at the edge of
life.
Interlocutor: But the virus doesn’t have a thetan?
Ruanel:
The virus has a minimum thetan. Therefore, to us in
the spiritual world, it has life.
Interlocutor: So. The virus is a 10% as
well...
Ruanel:
What I meant is that many biologists on Earth consider that a virus has life
because it reproduces and others consider that it has no life because it does
not reproduce by itself. The coherent thing, the logical idea is: if it
reproduces, it’s alive. All life forms that reproduce have life, whether they
need a host or not.
There is another issue that infects as much as a virus and it’s more
difficult to fight: the prions. You all can investigate fully in treaties, in
several books on the subject, there are studies conducted on prions. There are
extraterrestrial prions that many millennia ago have mutated the DNA in order to
create new species. That issue has been approached by Johnakan, this sublime Master, on several occasions and even
the Master Morganel has talked about it
too.
Interlocutor: Okay. I'm going to read about it in order to ask for
the next session.
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THE NEANDERTHAL UNIVERSES
In 1969, Juan Moricz, an Argentinian-Hungarian amateur speleologist claimed that he had found a “Metallic Library” and other ancient artifacts from an alleged lost civilization in a cave known as “La cueva de los Tayos” in Ecuador. Ever since the mystery regarding to these alleged metal plaques has puzzled researchers from different countries up until now.
First Part: The Tayos cave and the story of a metallic library in Ecuador.
“AN EXTRAORDINARY PASSAGE TO A PARALLEL UNIVERSE”
SESSION 07/JUN/05
Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.
Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel.
Interlocutor: I’ll move on to an interesting topic related to the Tayos Cave (The cave of the Oilbirds) or (La Cueva de los Tayos) you had already told me that there was a dimensional door there.
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Well, I’ll read the text related to the issue for the record:
In 1969, Juan Moricz, an amateur speleologist, was exploring a system of tunnels and caves beneath Ecuador. These Underground galleries are called "Cueva de los Tayos" since in these tunnels there are night-birds called in that way.
On July 21, 1969 Juan Moricz deposited a notarial title-deed signed by several witnesses with a notary in Guayaquil saying: “I have discovered valuable objects of great cultural and historical value to mankind. The objects consist mainly of metal plaques inscribed with what is a resume of the history of a lost civilization”
We don't have the slightest idea of this issue so far.
Ruanel: There are dimensional doors produced by "vortexes" that not only do they allow to travel through time, but also to travel to parallel universes. They are “quantum portals".
Interlocutor: Did Moricz pass through that dimensional door?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Surprisingly or Did he see the portal and pass through it?
Ruanel: No, he passed through it unexpectedly.
Interlocutor: So, there was nothing that could indicate the presence of that portal?
Ruanel: No, nothing.
Interlocutor: And where did he go?
Ruanel: He went directly to a parallel universe.
Interlocutor: Are we talking about a dimensional portal or a quantum portal?
Ruanel: Both are synonymous terms.
Interlocutor: Now I understand. Concretely, then, just by chance or fate- let us call it in that way- Juan Moricz passed through a dimensional door unexpectedly and he found himself in one of the 22 parallel universes. Am I correct?
Ruanel: That’s Correct.
Interlocutor: Does the universe to which Moricz passed through has some special peculiarity?
Ruanel: Yes, it is not like the others, it is a different universe from the universe we live in.
Interlocutor: I don’t understand.
Ruanel: In all the other parallel universes, there are similar beings to us - when I say “us” I include myself because I was also incarnated in this world- however, the universe to which this person passed through is different.
Interlocutor: I still don’t understand. What is the difference? Aren’t there people similar to us?
Ruanel: No, they are not similar to us.
Interlocutor: So Would that universe be an exception?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: And what did Juan Moricz find there?
Ruanel: He found a Neanderthal civilization.
Interlocutor: I don’t understand why you said that it was a different universe from ours. Weren’t Neanderthals also part of our universe?
Ruanel: Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon races, from whom we descend - I repeat “we” because I embodied as a human the last time -, both races cohabited together.
Homo sapiens sapiens as well as Cro-Magnon are on the planet Earth for around 100.000 years, and it has already been said that they were practically 60.000 years without any sign or spark of intelligence in the mental decoder. A spirit like me could embody in one of them, but the mental decoder (brain) was not capable to transmit abstract thinking.
The being Homo sapiens used to eat, have sexual intercourse, etc., but he didn't have abstract thinking.
Almost 40.000 years ago something woke up in him, in his decoder, and then he began transmitting spiritual concepts.
With the Homo Neanderthalensis from that parallel universe happened exactly the same thing, they cohabited. The Homo Neanderthalensis was up until 18.000 years ago, which means that during thousands of years both races cohabited together Homo neanderthalensis and Homo sapiens sapiens.
Even the Neanderthal had a higher skull capacity than the Homo sapiens had.
And I’ll give you the latest news, from the parallel universe to which Moricz passed through there were already passes in the part of Canada.
Interlocutor: I don’t understand when you say “passes”
Ruanel: There was a travel, by means of a physical artifact.
Interlocutor: Do you mean a machine?
Ruanel: Exactly.
Interlocutor: I didn’t know we had built a machine to travel to parallel universes.
Ruanel: It was the other way around.
Interlocutor: How come?
Ruanel: Sure, there were Neanderthal beings from that parallel universe that traveled to this universe.
Interlocutor: Now I understood.
Ruanel: There was a Neanderthal scientist from that parallel universe who discovered the way to travel to this universe in the area of Canada.
Interlocutor: Is this event well-known among scientists?
Ruanel: No, not at all, it is still something secret.
Interlocutor: Is there any proof about this?
Ruanel: Yes, there are many proofs, they have even taken pictures.
Interlocutor: Let’s see if I understand, this Neanderthal Scientist came from another parallel universe, he passed to our universe and he made contact with Human scientists in Canada. Is that so?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: And nobody knows about this, except these few scientists who are keeping the secret?
Ruanel: Correct, but one of the scientists commented the event to a writer, and this writer wrote about the topic, although disguising it as a science fiction story.
Interlocutor: Is that writer well-known like Arthur Clarke or Isaac Asimov?
Ruanel: No, he is unknown, although he has won some awards. He calls himself Tyler.
Interlocutor: Well, First of all I want to clarify something which is confusing to me. Did that advanced scientist pass from our universe and cohabited with Neanderthals?
Ruanel: No. He did not cohabit with Neanderthals, but rather that advanced scientist is a Neanderthal being. The homo sapiens sapiens had disappeared in that parallel universe 18.000 years ago.
Interlocutor: So, contrary to what happened in our universe, in that parallel universe the Neanderthal race evolved?
Ruanel: Correct. Even the Neanderthals from that parallel universe had a poor concept about humans: They affirmed that if his forehead was so wide and his chin was narrow was because humans were vegetarian and if his mouth was so small it was because he was idiotic and he dribbled.
Interlocutor: Are you referring to the humans from that parallel universe?
Ruanel: Yes, I’m referring to the humans from that parallel universe. Neanderthal Scientists thought that humans were like that.
Interlocutor: Now I understood.
Ruanel: And if the Homo sapiens sapiens became extinct 18.000 years ago was because his body was so flimsy so that the beasts exterminated him, and they thought things like that about humans.
Interlocutor: Now it is clear. Do they raise cattle like we do?
Ruanel: Not only do they raise livestock, but rather there are also mammoths and mastodons.
Interlocutor: It’s really unbelievable. I’m thinking that those Neanderthal scientists must be very advanced technologically, in order to build machines capable to travel from one parallel universe to another.
Ruanel: That’s right, they have laboratories and they work on that.
Interlocutor: Were they also able to pass to other parallel universes?
Ruanel: No, for the time being they passed only to our universe.
Interlocutor: Returning to Juan Moricz, once he penetrated into the cave and unexpectedly he passed through a dimensional door What did he find? I ask it because this person's stories are not concrete.
Ruanel: His amazement was so huge that his mental decoder didn't accept what he saw and unconsciously he rejected it.
Interlocutor: But What did he find?
Ruanel: He met Neanderthal beings.
Interlocutor: Did Moricz contact with Neanderthals?
Ruanel: That’s right. And Moricz was frightened. These beings were dressed with uniforms, they had animals, and the terrestrial conformation was also the same, with the same continents. The difference was that they were very few inhabitants compared to the inhabitants in our planet; they were hardly 700 million beings.
Interlocutor: Do they also have diversity of languages as we do?
Ruanel: No, they speak a single language.
Interlocutor: Do they live in the same present that we live in?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Did Moricz talk to them?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: How come?
Ruanel: By means of a small computer. Each one of the Neanderthal beings has a computer in a wrist with several functions; one of them allows them to know, like a kind of central, where they are in each moment and what they are doing. They are filmed permanently and for that reason there are no crimes in that parallel universe. To that device they call it "Observer" and it is like a chip.
Interlocutor: Is it similar to the gadget that the officers at Area 51 wear?
Ruanel: Something like that.
Interlocutor: How long did Moricz stay in that parallel universe?
Ruanel: Around 15 days.
Interlocutor: But apparently he doesn't remember anything about that.
Ruanel: I repeat that he erased it from his mind due to his inability to confront it. There was also an engram in between that prevented him to accept it.
Interlocutor: I understand.
Ruanel: He simply thought that he passed through a dimensional door, but all those things he saw were part of a dream.
Interlocutor: Then, to him those things were not real?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: According to my research Juan Moricz brought from that parallel universe metallic plaques.
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Did Neil Amstrong, the famous astronaut, take them with him? I ask it because those plaques disappeared.
Ruanel: No. That is not true.
Interlocutor: People say that an expedition came and they took everything in some mysterious boxes.
Ruanel: No. That is not true, they are only gossips.
Interlocutor: Making a digression, in that parallel other universe, Did they also travel to the outer space as we did? Are they more advanced?
Ruanel: No, they have not achieved that yet. They are dedicated more to quantum physics.
Interlocutor: About that expedition I mentioned, Was Neil Amstrong, capable to pass through that dimensional door as Moricz did?
Ruanel: No, the only one who passed through that dimensional door was Moricz, and as I already said it, his mental decoder was damaged due to the tremendous experience he went through, denying everything he saw.
Interlocutor: Where are those metallic plaques? I ask it because apparently they disappeared.
Ruanel: The Men in black from Area 51 took them.
Interlocutor: Did they find something useful in these plaques?
Ruanel: No, nothing.
Interlocutor: And what about the famous writer Erich Von Däniken?
Ruanel: He is one of the most imaginative writers in the XX Century.
Interlocutor: Did he make everything up then?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Wow with the news! And What about Neil Amstrong, who declared to the press after having been three days in the Tayos Caves that his visit to the underground world had surpassed his experience on the Moon?
Ruanel: That’s not true, they are fantasies, don't take them into account.
Interlocutor: Concretely, only Juan Moricz passed through the dimensional door, he spent two weeks in that parallel world cohabiting with Neanderthal scientists, his mind rejected everything, and nobody else passed through that dimensional door, Neil Amstrong and the expedition didn't find anything of value in the caves, the metallic plaques were stolen by the Men in black, and Erich von Däniken made everything up just to sell books. Is this correct?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: And what about the content of the four wooden boxes?
Ruanel: Nothing that belonged from that parallel universe.
Interlocutor: I believe that this matter is clear. Would it be something more to say?
Ruanel: No, except to say that the scientists from Canada were in a laboratory installed in a very deep cave making experiments with heavy water and they met with Neanderthal scientists from the other universe. This fact is known by very few people.
Interlocutor: What kind of laboratory is the one you mentioned?
Ruanel: It is one of the well-known from Canada that experiments with heavy water.
Interlocutor: Are they still in contact?
Ruanel: No, not at this moment the parallax is closed, but it was opened around 15 days.
Interlocutor: Can that parallax be opened from that other parallel universe or also from ours?
Ruanel: No. Only from that parallel universe, because in this universe scientists don't have the necessary technology to do it.
Interlocutor: Do these Neanderthal scientists believe in God, for example?
Ruanel: No, not at all, they were even surprised that here we have crimes, there are wars and that we don't have "observers."
Interlocutor: Do you refer to the control devices?
Ruanel: Correct. They have a very poor concept about us, the human beings, because when having so many beliefs, and even more “a punishing god" we live totally suffering from complexes. On the other hand the Neanderthals don't have guilt complexes, they don’t’ have crimes, wars or traumas, they don’t have engrams either because they have the "observer” device and they are filmed the 24 hours.
Interlocutor: Well, I don't know if it could stand being permanently watched over as if I were in jail. That would cut off my free will somehow.
Ruanel: The same thing said a terrestrial scientist to the Neanderthal scientist, but he responded that their system was preferable because in this way they didn't have crimes and in spite of having 700 million inhabitants they didn't have any dead except for age or cancer.
Interlocutor: That argument is very consistent.
Ruanel: And one of those terrestrial scientists asked to disclose the experience, and they responded: "Do it, anyway nobody is going to believe you."
Interlocutor: Will they be in contact or they will never do it again?
Ruanel: From the little that I could perceive from the Thetan of the Neanderthal scientist when he was here, the idea was that they planned to contact again.
Interlocutor: Was Juan Moricz the only person who passed to a parallel universe?
Ruanel: No, here on Earth there were also other human beings.[1]
Interlocutor: But always by chance?
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Can a terrestrial being be taken to another parallel universe by somebody that comes from another parallel universe?
Ruanel: Yes, of course, there is no problem.
Interlocutor: How about Area 51? Did they achieve the technology to travel to other parallel universes? I ask it because we know that there are also extraterrestrials over there.
Ruanel: No, not yet.
Interlocutor: Well, I’ll conclude the topic here.
Second part:
THE CRYSTALLIZED ALTERNATE UNIVERSE
Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.
Interlocutor: Manuel M.
Entity that came to dialogue: Master Morganel.
Jorge Olguin: Session of telepathic Channeling. I’ll channel Morganel.
Morganel: Well. I’m here once again, always with you with the permanent curiosity. I feel comfortable with you all because you, my 10%, as well as this vessel are living examples in the physical plane of what research means; and I always say that if there were many more embodied beings with a desire of investigation and not only of breathing, because this one is an automatic effect, many things would change in favor for this world and other races in different worlds, as well as in this galaxy and other galaxies. But it doesn't make sense to have prologues or introductions; let’s go directly to not only unveil mysteries, but to untie knots as well.
Interlocutor: Very well Morganel. We have found a very odd situation. I’ll explain it to you. Two and a half years ago the Master Ruanel was asked on an archaeological discovery carried out in the Tayos Cave (Ecuador), The Master Ruanel told us the story of a Neanderthal civilization, whose scientists would have had contact with human scientists in Canada. You Morganel also mentioned this Neanderthal civilization in a prior session [2], but we have noticed some inconsistencies between what the Master Ruanel informed us and what you told us. Morganel, Could you clarify some issues for us that are not clear?
Morganel: Okay.
Interlocutor: We have 5 essential points.
Morganel: Please name them.
Interlocutor: Well, First, the Master Ruanel told us that there was a parallel universe (one of the 22 parallel universes) and you told us that it was an alternative universe.
Second, the Master Ruanel confirmed us that a Neanderthal scientist would have had contact with scientists in Canada, but you mentioned the construction of a dimensional door and that the Neanderthal scientists had detected dangerous microorganisms for them in the polluted atmosphere of our planet and for that reason they had abandoned the project.
Third, the Master Ruanel informed us that one of our scientists had been present in that contact and he mentioned the story of a writer named Tyler, who could disclose it writing a science-fiction story on the topic, but you told us that the information on that topic had been transmitted to the writer's Thetan from the Thetan of one of the scientists of that project.
Fourth, the Master Ruanel told us that that Neanderthal civilization had 700 million beings and you told us that its population was only the thousandth part of that figure, which is approximately 7 million.
Fifth, the Master Ruanel informed us that the Neanderthal beings were monitored from a central station by means of computer they had in their wrists, and you told us that it was a chip implanted closer to the left ear.
As you can see, Morganel, we have here, in essence, 5 details that don't fit. We don’t understand. What is missing here? Can you clarify it for us?
Morganel: Well. It’s very simple. In fact there is no contradiction. First of all I’ll clarify about the writer’s name. There are two totally different writers. The writer who was contacted with his body of ideas or 10% is not called Tyler, his name is Robert Sawyer.
Interlocutor: Robert Sawyer.[3]
Morganel: Yes, he is another writer.
Interlocutor: Well.
Morganel: And about the rest, I keep telling you that it’s not a parallel universe, but an alternate universe. It is an alternative universe with such consistency that takes millions of years like a parallel universe to ours. That is, it’s an alternative universe with such real consistency as our universe is. It doesn’t follow the physical laws - we could say - of an alternate universe which you already know, where somebody changes his mind on a certain matter and automatically an alternate universe is formed; or as you say if a time traveler goes back in time and kills his grandfather and automatically in that alternative universe that time traveler doesn't live because when killing his grandfather he doesn't have father and therefore he was not born. There, an alternate universe is formed. An alternate universe where the Master Jesus was not crucified, but rather he married and lived in Kashmir.
Those are small alternative universes where if that character disembodies that universe stops to exist. Here we are not talking about a role; we are talking about an entire civilization that somehow mutated their DNA. The race continued and it was the predominant race over the Cro-magnon race. This one is not in conflict with another similar race from a parallel universe. There was a direct contact with the race from the parallel universe. They worked in a laboratory specialized on things among other in the search of heavy water.
In the alternative universe I’m talking about they worked with a very similar apparatus to the cyclotron. That is, they have a technology in some cases more advanced than the terrestrial one and in other things they are less advanced. They don’t contaminate the air of the Earth by using petroleum derivatives and the inhabitants are very few in both cases.
Interlocutor: Morganel, I understand that there were two Neanderthal civilizations. One from a parallel universe and another different from an alternative universe…
Morganel: That’s correct.
Interlocutor: Ah, So for that reason there is no contradiction!
Morganel: They have many things in common, such as the topic of the "Observers" those devices that record the 24 hours all their acts and they are absolutely controlled, therefore it cannot be crimes. They live off the hunt. There were boars in areas in which they were exterminated. They have a sense of smell absolutely developed, something that the Homo Sapiens sapiens has not. They have a subtlety in their way of investigation that it would be worthy of the best laboratory in our planet Sun 3.
Interlocutor: Well.
Morganel: And with regard to the writers. They are different writers, each one of them has written a different work. Robert Sawyer wrote a book, which is very known and Tyler, the one mentioned by the Master Ruanel, wrote - as you say -, a romance, which is a less known work; but those who want to investigate can find those authors.
Interlocutor: Then we must understand that the Neanderthals from a parallel world were able to make contact with terrestrial scientists, on this planet Sun 3, some years ago in Canada. On the other hand, the other Neanderthals from an alternate universe they only created a dimensional door, they detected dangerous microorganisms for them and they abandoned the project, and so they didn't continue ahead.
Morganel: Correct. They were frightened by the great contamination, - as much as with the nauseous scents they perceived and the virus density and bacterias that there are in this universe, which don’t exist in their world, and automatically they closed any contact. They are very intelligent. That’s what most travelers from other worlds do in their ships, they have a kind of radiation, not only to clean their suits, but also to decontaminate a person.
This vessel, who kindly channels me, has already said that you if you travel to a huge city in this same world, Sun 3, you will feel absolutely nauseous scents in cities that you ignore, - and we are speaking about the same atmosphere in Sun 3 -, however in some cities there are other scents, other aromas. Imagine directly that you are in another world. It is as if you were in another planet.
Interlocutor: Yes.
Morganel: They have artifacts that can measure not only the environmental contamination from different gases, but also the contamination from virus and bacterias. And obviously that they returned terrified to their world. I humbly say that the Absolute (Eon) doesn’t contradict himself, the Absolute, the dear Creator simply generalizes. The way in which form the Creator expresses is accurate when he speaks that alternative universes in general are not contacted, but there are always exceptions to the rule and the Father knows about it.
We speak about an alternate universe that would have the "capabilities" of a parallel universe by its long duration; because you will notice in that alternate universe so that it ends, the entire race would have to end and the race doesn't seem to have an end so far; because when they have mutated their DNA, they have investigated the DNA at this time and have more advances on genetic than us, as terrestrials, on Sun 3. By modifying the DNA and the RNA they have for while with their race. Notice that the day of tomorrow they can travel to the outer space and they can make contact with other races and they can be disseminated in other worlds of the galaxy. It would be an eternal alternate universe because it would last until the next big Crunch; because as long as a single being from that alternate universe lives – let’s say that a single being from a race formed that alternate universe, yes?-, although the original being that formed the alternate universe has already disembodied, and he/she had offspring, and although they are 7 million people, the universe will continue existing. And by having the characteristics of a parallel universe and not from an alternate universe, as for its lifespan, gives it a certain consistency for communication; that certainly occurred.
Interlocutor: Yes.
Morganel: Because we cannot say that for such things there is no technology, because as the 10% of Radael’s said, not all of us are like Newcomb.
Interlocutor: Of course, I agree completely. Just out of curiosity, Morganel. This alternative world, where this Neanderthal civilization, which you spoke about exist, Could it be an alternative universe- let’s say crystallized – with a peculiarity like a parallel world or there are other exceptions to the rule?
Morganel: It’s not a singularity.
Interlocutor: No?
Morganel: It is a particularity that has happened perfectly in other parts of the universe. To deny that would be nonsense on my behalf, and as an investigator, I try to leave all the doors open, speaking in terrestrial lingo.
Interlocutor: Then, aside from those 22 parallel universes, of which the Light Masters have talked about…
Morganel: There are several alternate universes, as you say, crystallized by different reasons. Because there might be other worlds in which the dinosaurs have evolved and at this time they are saurian beings perfectly civilized who drive space ships and have had a civilization with philosophers; but perhaps 200.000 years ago those saurian beings competed with another race of evolved insects, perhaps those insect beings woke up to conscience more quickly than the saurian beings even having less possibilities - because the saurian beings would be a step ahead, at least from our point of view-.
However, why we all must have everything under own point of view? Why are we all so close-minded?-, then, those insectoids may have developed perhaps before and they were the masters of that world and it was formed an alternate universe which was also crystallized. An alternative universe where in Oriben 5 there is an insectoid race and in the Oriben 5 of this universe there is a saurian race. This is a hypothesis, so that you understand what I mean.
Interlocutor: Does that Oriben 5 exist?
Morganel: Yes, of course that it exists!
Interlocutor: All right, And it is an example that you are giving us.
Morganel: It’s an example. But why do we have to be so close-minded with regard to our point of view? Everything has to be as they taught us. We don’t leave alternatives for a wider perspective. In that way we would be like those close-minded scientists! Some of them are skeptic people who might see a being from Anthea and they think that he is a disguised boy!
Interlocutor: Yes, it is true. That can happen. (Laughs).
Morganel: The broad-mindedness is the best tool we have in order to investigate. And I clarify it because as well as you in the physical plane thanks to this vessel you can communicate with Eon, I intention the communication with the Father, and the Father, obviously, sends me a loving concept to my conceptual mind explaining to me that the Father always speaks with generalities, however, these generalities are not strict; because as well as the Father, the Creator of Free Will, this Free will also goes for the same universe.
There are so many things that have not yet revealed! So many things that I lucubrating with regard to other universes that have not been unveiled! And that I’m "digesting" mentally in order to be able to transmit it to you later on so that this vessel can reveal it.
Interlocutor: Okay.
Morganel: And I'll say more. Throughout the different lives that each one of the spirits has lived, there are very similar lives. For instance, I was a scientist in Italy more than once. There were other spirits who have also incarnated in Italy and they have been scientists and they have had similar experiences, similar frustrations, our names were different because we even had incarnations with few years of difference.
I perceive and I realized- because I’m very curious by nature- that there are hundreds and hundreds of beings that surround us that have had very similar incarnations. Let's talk about Sun 3. I have had incarnations in the country called Mexico, in North America, very similar to hundreds of other individuals with the same experiences. Working with herbs, working with medicinal plants, loving the mountain, admiring the volcano, etc.. In the country of the North, trying to excel and I didn’t like to mark cattle like the cowboys did. I rather preferred to be out on the field sowing.
I contacted conceptually with many beings embodied in some 10% and other 100% spirits, who have had similar experiences! Why did that happen? Because in life there is not so much diversity as many people believe. And watch out that we're talking about Sun 3, which is one of the most diverse worlds in the galaxy. There are hundreds of dialects. There are borders... In other worlds there are not such things! There are worlds divided into north and south, such as Ani. (Laughs). In Antares there are no divisions, and we have Aldebaran 4, which is directly divided by regions, but there are thousands of customs. Thousands!
Interlocutor: Excuse Morganel, now that you mentioned Ani ... Have you ever embodied in Ani?
Morganel: Yes, I have embodied in Ani.
Interlocutor: Was it a long time ago?
Morgan-El: Yes, a long time ago. I had the fortune to meet Kether embodied. It is also a world where the progress was acquired at a higher price; it has advanced in philosophy, so much progress in religion... There were great schisms. Ani has a past as bellicose as Sun 3. Thanks to Kether and its inhabitants, who have worked on it, at this moment it’s a world where harmony reigns, but Ani has had a very quarrelsome past. For that reason I say that I like studying the history of the worlds.
Interlocutor: Yes, you have said that.
Morganel: One could write 10 volumes of the history of each one of these worlds! Not one. 10 volumes with the history of each world!
Interlocutor: That would be a very interesting project, Morganel.
Morganel: And it's beautiful. There are worlds that have similarities with Sun 3 and there are other worlds that have absolutely nothing in common. Worlds where religion does not exist. In the same alternate universe from these Neanderthalensis there is no belief that subjects them in fears!
Interlocutor: Ah! Don’t they have a religion?
Morganel: No.
Interlocutor: What about the Neanderthal from the parallel universe?
Morganel: Neither did them! No! They are absolutely rational. They are not superstitious. You will tell me: - But that contradicts the spiritual world. - Yes, it contradicts the spirit world. When they disembody they are very surprised finding out that there is something beyond.
Interlocutor: So, they are not aware of this reality.
Morganel: But in this moment, I see that as something positive. And if not, look at Sun 3. There are so many religious wars looking forward to seizing the goods of the others.
Interlocutor: Yes. That's true.
Morganel: There are ideological wars, political wars, and so on. Truly, our Father is right when he speaks in generalities, but sometimes, He is accurate when saying that this is a planet of children and that’s dangerous. We laugh at the apes, to such point that someone wrote a certain aphorism: “more dangerous than a monkey with a razor blade.”
Interlocutor: Yes. That aphorism exists. (Laughing).
Morganel: And I would say: a Homo sapiens sapiens is more dangerous than a monkey with a razor blade.
Interlocutor: Yes. To sum up Morganel, I would ask two curiosities more. Were you contacted in some previous incarnation by your own role (10%) just like you are contacted now through a medium, Prof. Jorge here, Can I contact you?
Morgan-El: Not like the present moment. Some roles had the joy for being contacted with their own soul.
Interlocutor: Yes
Morganel: The issue is that by not having full knowledge; it was difficult to digest that contact. As you know, you are a 10% of what we are, a 100%, you know that there is a 90% with whom you can contact. But this is a theory not yet widespread – not even now is being widespread! - Most of the beings on Sun 3, as well as in other worlds, ignore that they can contact with a part of themselves.
Interlocutor: Then, it’s due to a spiritual ignorance...
Morganel: It is always due to ignorance on behalf of the 10%. Always due to ignorance.
Interlocutor: Yes, I see yes. I see that there is no exception to the rule.
Morganel: Ignorance prejudges and prejudice sometimes sentences. Do not rush. You have to wait. It's like a teacher who is giving a lecture and the students raise their hands to interrupt him. Let him finish, let him continue, let him conclude the concept. I find it disrespectful if the teacher is giving a lecture and he is interrupted because the theory did not fit.
Interlocutor: If the theory does not fit, is because they only have fragments of it and they can’t...
Morganel: Of course! As the 10% of Radael always says. When one has a fragment of a jigsaw puzzle, one cannot draw a conclusion. Or if they have a 70% of the fragment they dare to draw a conclusion. Let him give the lecture and clarify the doubts. It’s true that due to ignorance, or if they know only a fragment... Most of them raise their hands to interrupt! (Laughing).
Interlocutor: Yes. That's true, and now just at the beginning of this session we were in that situation. We knew only fragments, right? Of the story of the Neanderthal civilization related by Ruanel and fragments of the Neanderthal civilization you talked about, but these things were incongruities because we really knew fragments. We did not know everything.
Morgan-El: For that reason it’s okay to raise your, dear 10%, why would you stay with doubts... These doubts gnaw at us!
Interlocutor: Yes. That’s why we asked.
Morgan-El: So, it's very important to clarify the doubts. The dangerous thing is to have the sufficiency and invalidate theories. There is so little we know! And I include myself. And perhaps I’m glad to know so little because I have so much to learn yet...
Interlocutor: And you have plenty of time…
Morgan-El: And not in this physical life, where time may not be enough, but there is so much to investigate! And it's so beautiful that it gives me the desire to do things.
Interlocutor: Okay.
Morgan-El: Obviously that doesn’t prevent me from being useful to others because, somehow, by giving to others the key to solve issues of disease and the survival of the planet, I humbly - and perhaps I’m being ironic, yes?- think that it’s service too.
Interlocutor: Yes I agree with that concept as well.
Morgan-El: Thank you for listening to me!
Interlocutor: Thank you Morganel. So long.
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[1] Quantum Parallax
[2] Akashic Records
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