| FRIENDSHIP ISLAND THE END OF A MYTH Somewhere in the Southwest area of Chiloe Island (Chile), there is an extraterrestrial base located in a place that has been called “Friendship Island”. For many years this base has aroused suspicions among local residents. Some people have said that it’s only a myth, others claim that they have seen them. However, nobody would have ever imagined the magnitude of the truth behind these extraterrestrial facilities. SESSION 03/SEPT/04. Medium: Jorge Olguin. Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont. Entity that came to dialogue: Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and Scientology. Interlocutor: I already perceive that you are incorporated, Master. Ron Hubbard: Hello, Horacio. Yes, I am already incorporated. Interlocutor: How have you been? Ron Hubbard: Always working, always in Service, you already know that in the spiritual world there is no rest. Interlocutor: Does my thetan work or he is hanging around? Of course, it’s a joke. Ron Hubbard: No, he doesn't hang around, calm down he is working. We are sending reconciliation to terrestrial countries that are in conflict with seven spirits more. Interlocutor: How is the vessel for an intense session? Ron Hubbard: He is perfect, very lucid. Interlocutor: Can we start, then? Ron Hubbard: Okay. Interlocutor: Well, I want to dedicate the whole session, if it’s necessary, to clarify the entire issue about the extraterrestrials that are settled in the Chiloe Island. I mean to the case that has been called as “Friendship Island” Ron Hubbard: It is a topic that we talked about a while ago. Interlocutor: Yes, but on one hand we didn't deepen about it and on the other hand the session is in some of the tapes that I still have to transcribe. What happens is that I receive many emails asking me about this topic and this case has become somewhat emblematic about the extraterrestrial bases on Earth, the first thing I want to ask you is: Where did they come from? Ron Hubbard: There are two extraterrestrial races that are in that place. One is of a gray blackish color, of an average height of 1,60 mts., and the other one has the same characteristics of humans, but maybe the average height is taller, because their height is around 1,90 m., and their hair is like the color of wheat. Interlocutor: Like Nordics? Ron Hubbard: Yes, and this is the main race in the establishment and the one that prevails over there. Interlocutor: Are these extraterrestrials like humans? Ron Hubbard: No, they are not like humans, they are directly humans. Interlocutor: Humans? Ron Hubbard: Yes, because they have the same DNA that the human beings have. Interlocutor: Concretely, they are humans born in another planet. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: What is the name of their planet? Ron Hubbard: Imm. Interlocutor: And the number? Ron Hubbard: 3. Interlocutor: Imm 3? Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: And How far is their planet from Earth? Ron Hubbard: It is exactly at 666 light years. Interlocutor: How long have they been here on Earth? Ron Hubbard: More or less six hundred years. Interlocutor: So much time? Ron Hubbard: Yes, because before they were in Easter Island. Interlocutor: Are you talking about the aliens who look like Nordics? Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: And was there another race that built the famous monuments called "Mohai”? Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: Why do I have the idea of another race? Ron Hubbard: Sure, because there were other races that were in conflict. [1] Interlocutor: Now I remember. Is the establishment in Chiloe Island? Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: And how long have they been in this place? Ron Hubbard: According to the terrestrial calendar since 1910. Interlocutor: Ah! It’s not recently. Ron Hubbard: No, they have been enough time over there. Interlocutor: As I see they have passed unnoticed a long time. Ron Hubbard: Of course. Interlocutor: What about the race of Greys? Ron Hubbard: I cannot say enough because they are few and they come back and forth. Interlocutor: Then, they are not in there permanently? Ron Hubbard: No. It is a race that only cooperates, bringing them some type of support and also laboratory instruments and things like that. Interlocutor: Are they some kind of slaves? Ron Hubbard: No, not slaves, but they depend on the "Nordics", so to speak. Interlocutor: And where do this race of greys come from? Ron Hubbard: From Espiga IV. Interlocutor: Do they get along with the “Nordics”? Ron Hubbard: Not necessarily. What happens is that they are few and technologically inferior, so they are subjected and they serve the “Nordics”. Interlocutor: I understand what you tell me. Here on Earth there are many people that also do it, especially when they don't like their work and they don't have any other choice. Is it possible to know the location of the extraterrestrial base or it should be kept in secret? I ask this because many people have looked for it and they have not been able to find it. Ron Hubbard: Yes, we can know, it is not any secret. They are in the Southwest area of Chiloe island. Interlocutor: Is the base hidden underground? Ron Hubbard: Yes, of course, on the surface there is nothing that reveals its existence. Interlocutor: Do Nordics go to some town of the Chilean coast? Ron Hubbard: Correct, they come out permanently. They have some suits that if I wanted to compare them with some terrestrial material, I would say that it’s similar to Neoprene. They wear them adjusted to their bodies. Interlocutor: I suppose that from the point of view of the structure, it would be far from the characteristics of Neoprene. Ron Hubbard: Of course, because they are not flammable, they are bump-resistant. Interlocutor: I also suppose that when they go to the town they don't go with this kind of outfit. Ron Hubbard: Of course not, because they wear fisherman's clothes, they look dirty, sloppy, and even with fish odor so that nobody suspects that they are extraterrestrials. Besides, since their DNA is human, they let their beards grow. Their aspect is similar to abandoned beings, and then nobody bothers them, and when they return to their base they go to a chamber from which a kind of smoke comes out, which is an antiseptic and this cleans them up completely. Interlocutor: So that is a perfect camouflage. Ron Hubbard: And I will tell you more, their beards even have lice, because they socialize with common sailors from different ports. Interlocutor: I can hardly believe it. Ron Hubbard: In that way nobody will think for the way they look like that they are extraterrestrials. Even some of them are very well-known in the area because people have seen them for years. Suddenly somebody calls them by a Swedish name, Swen, and the other responds in Swedish, and in fact is not Swedish but an extraterrestrial. It is very easy to deceive people in the town. Imagine that you say that a person that has been sticking around for ten years, dirty and abandoned, and who drinks like anyone in the tavern is actually an alien. Wouldn’t they look at you as if you were insane? Interlocutor: Of course. Do they drink to conceal themselves? Ron Hubbard: They drink because they are human. Interlocutor: I understand the point. Ron Hubbard: They have the same human DNA and they can mate perfectly with terrestrial women. Interlocutor: Have they made it? I mean if they have knocked terrestrial women up and they have had children with them. At least that is what people say. Ron Hubbard: No, not to that point. They have mated, but taking care. Interlocutor: I don’t understand. Ron Hubbard: The males are injected with a kind of serum that doesn't allow the activation of spermatozoids. Interlocutor: In their sperm the spermatozoids are inactive with that serum? Ron Hubbard: Totally. If people knew this on Earth, they they would avoid overpopulation in the countries of the Third world. Interlocutor: Remarkable. How is this serum? Ron Hubbard: It is a serum that is injected in the arm and it deactivates the search of the female ovule. Then they can ejaculate without fear to knock terrestrial women up. Interlocutor: Does this serum kill the spermatozoids? Ron Hubbard: No, it doesn't kill them, it only disables them. Interlocutor: In short, they have sexual intercourse, but without the commitment of pregnancy. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: Why don't they want to have offspring with terrestrial women? Ron Hubbard: They don’t want to vary the species. Interlocutor: Is it false what people say that these aliens have mated with terrestrial women and they have had children that would be in the base? Ron Hubbard: Yes, it is completely false. They have offspring, but with their own race. Interlocutor: Not even one has escaped? For example because the serum didn't work or they didn't inject him? Ron Hubbard: No, categorically no. Interlocutor: Well, then that fact is false. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: Do they abduct people to experiment with them like the aliens that abducted women in Mexico do? I refer to the case of the Dead women of Juarez? Ron Hubbard: No, not all. Interlocutor: Are there terrestrials in the establishment? Ron Hubbard: No, because they keep it in secret. Interlocutor: According to my investigation and the reports I have been able to read, some Chileans say that they were taken there and they narrated how the place was. Ron Hubbard: I repeat it, in the establishment there is no Chilean and nobody was taken over there. There is only a secondary base in the west coast of the island, at 16 Km.[9.9 Miles] more or less from the central base, which is also underground, where some American technicians are. Interlocutor: No Chilean was taken to these bases? Ron Hubbard: None. Interlocutor: Then, It’s a false story!... Do they have some connection with Area 51? Ron Hubbard: No, they are independent. Interlocutor: Neither with the extraterrestrial base in Alamo Gordo? Ron Hubbard: No, no, Friendship is something completely different. I repeat that they are independent. Interlocutor: But what are those Americans doing in that secondary base? Ron Hubbard: They are physicists and biologists that investigate about the molecular DNA chain. Interlocutor: Do these Americans know that the “Nordics” are extraterrestrials? Ron Hubbard: Yes, they know it, but they keep the secret. Interlocutor: Concretely, there is a main establishment in which the Nordics and the Greys are and nobody else, and another secondary base in which the American scientists work. Is this correct? Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: And they are devoted to the study of DNA based on the fact that they have the same DNA as humans have? Ron Hubbard: That’s also correct. They are making a mixture of DNA with pigeons and animals like mice, rabbits, and some birds called herons that have paws and long beak. Interlocutor: Yes, I know them. Ron Hubbard: They study their differences in the measure that these animals grow because transmuting the DNA, they also mutate the animals. They can even make that a mouse reaches a size of 25 cm.[0.82 ft], but in these moments they are failing in their attemp because those rats live six months only and later on they collapse. Interlocutor: Do they make some kind of experiments with human beings? Ron Hubbard: No, not at all, they are making it only with animals. Interlocutor: Returning to the issue of the secret they keep about their base. Is the entrance to the bases camouflaged? Ron Hubbard: Totally. Interlocutor: Where are the entrances of their bases concretely? Ron Hubbard: In the part of the coast there are many rocky places and the entrances are camouflaged, so they seem to be part of the rocks. Interlocutor: So, it’s impossible to know the location if nobody knows exactly where the entrance is? Ron Hubbard: Correct. Besides, they have a very sophisticated radar systems. For example, a fisherman would never see accidentally how a door opens and a boat appears from the rocky place because those radars warn them if there is somebody around the place. If there is nobody visible, they leave peacefully and they go to the town as if they were simple fishermen. Interlocutor: Do many of them go to the town? Ron Hubbard: No, three at the most. They always look for to pass unnoticed always. Interlocutor: Do they have a single boat called Mitilos II? Ron Hubbard: No, they have five boats, but they are not open. They are like small submarines, although not cylindrical , but flat. Interlocutor: Do they go on the surface or under the surface of the water? Ron Hubbard: The first, but they can easily submerge and move as if they were submarines. Interlocutor: Could they be detected by radars, like terrestrial submarines are detected? Ron Hubbard: No, because they have a very sophisticated anti-radar system. If any sonar of submarine or any ship with a radar wanted to find them, they would not appear on the radar. They would be nonexistent for the sonar or the radar. It is like a system of invisibility. Interlocutor: I understand... They cannot be detected! Ron Hubbard: Some American jet fighters, with extraterrestrial technology, have developed the anti-radar and they have disclosed it in some important magazines; and the scientists, always so myopic, they have not realized their extraterrestrial origin. Interlocutor: I don’t understand. Ron Hubbard: Sure, because that technology appeared suddenly! Technology doesn't appear in this way, like magic, there is a whole process and the scientists know that. How could they not? But instead of adding two plus two equals four, they add two plus two equals three! Interlocutor: I understand the irony. I am also surprised because many people ask me how we know so much and how we have all the answers, when in every web page that we have uploaded to the web, we are saying that the Masters of Light are our source. Ron Hubbard: There are black airplanes, (Delta type) that have already incorporated anti-radar systems. Where did they get that technology? Did it fall from the sky? Interlocutor: As I always say, “Many things you will see, but you won’t believe them" Ron Hubbard: No scientist has wondered about that. A chronomobil can pass before of them and they will say that it is a “merry-go-round.” Interlocutor: I remenber what Saint Exupéry once said in his book "the little prince": "What is essential is invisible to the eye." Ron Hubbard: But more than ever it’s invisible to the eyes! Scientists don't see something so obvious. Interlocutor: Do terrestrial hierarchs or extraterrestrials at Area 51 have tried to contact with Friendship Island? Do they know about their existence? Ron Hubbard: Yes, of course they know about their existence, but they are with their own projects and they don't interfere with each other. As long as a research doesn't harm to the other, it doesn't bother. It is as if you had a carpentry shop and at your side there was a blacksmith’s workshop: you would make furniture and the other would make iron bars. Interlocutor: It is clear. Do they have space ships? Ron Hubbard: They have only one. Interlocutor: What size does it have? Ron Hubbard: It is very small, hardly 120 m. [393.7 ft] Interlocutor: Do they have it inside their base? Ron Hubbard: No, on the bottom of the sea, at few kilometers from the coast. It is a ship that they handle by remote control. It can have one or two people inside of the ship for maintenance of oxygen level, but nothing else. Interlocutor: Can they go with this ship to their star? Ron Hubbard: No, because it is only an interplanetary ship. Interlocutor: Don’t interplanetary ships go to their star? Ron Hubbard: No, those are interstellar ships? Interlocutor: I understand, I had a confusion. Concretely, an interplanetary ship go from planet to planet, but within each system, and an interstellar ship can go from star to star. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: And what size does the interstellar ship have? Ron Hubbard: It has 2 Km [1.24 Miles] approximately. Interlocutor: According to your explanation it’s not here, but it’s located in their planet Imm 3. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: How do they do to communicate from their base in the Chiloe Island to their planet? Ron Hubbard: They communicate perfectly, because in the same way that they pass through the subspace to arrive from their star, in the same way there are subspatial connections. Interlocutor: Okay. How many extraterrestrial “Nordics” are there in the main base? Ron Hubbard: Not too many, maybe 220 or 240. Interlocutor: And how many greys? Ron Hubbard: They are few, 10 or 15, but don't count them because they go back and forth. They are not permanent. They are in charge to bring provisions and also all kind of novelties that appear in their planet. Interlocutor: Are there women? Ron Hubbard: Yes, of course. Interlocutor: There is a woman called Isabel that apparently has been in contact with the “Nordics”, and according to what I read, she says some things that sound appropriate to me. Ron Hubbard: I perceive a Chilean woman of that name, around forty years old, who has been contacted with two of the "Nordics", and she has a very big fondness for one of them. There is a personal relationship. Interlocutor: Intimate relationship? Ron Hubbard: No, no, only affectionate. The Nordics avoid to get entangled with terrestrial women- if one might say- , because later on they are so attached and they cannot get rid of them. They don’t want to have any stable commitment with any woman that is not from their own race. Interlocutor: But do they have sexual intercourse with terrestrial women? Ron Hubbard: Yes, but without any commitment. Interlocutor: But why so much reticence in this aspect? Ron Hubbard: Because they don't want to have problems, because these problems can topple down many years of work. Interlocutor: I understand. This woman Isabel must know enough about the Nordics. Ron Hubbard: What happens is that the Nordic with whom she had so much empathy, seeing that she was a noble and honest person, he commented things that in fact he should have kept silent. It was a great mistake. Interlocutor: It’s clear, but I could find over the Internet that there are people who say that they have been taken to the base and they have even narrated what they saw. Ron Hubbard: They have fantasized to be famous. Interlocutor: Is everything a lie? Ron Hubbard: Correct. I repeat it, there is no Chilean in none of the bases and they were not taken there at any moment either. There are only American scientists, physicists and biologists, in the secondary base. Interlocutor: Concretely, all those who have said that they were over there are lying openly. Ron Hubbard: I ratify it firmly. Interlocutor: Have the spirits of error also influenced? Ron Hubbard: Totally, they always do it. The aliens don't need to take to the base people with average education because later on they will speak about what they have seen and everybody would know about the base. They also keep in mind that in this area people drink a lot of alcohol and you already know that alcohol loosens the tongue. Interlocutor: I understand. Ron Hubbard: Just with four or five that would have been there, everybody would already know, the whole continent, and their presence on earth would be an "open secret." Interlocutor: Okay. There is a Chilean called Ernesto de la Fuente who says that he was cured by the Nordics from a cancer. Is it true? Ron Hubbard: No, it is absolutely false. Interlocutor: Nobody was cured of a cancer? Ron Hubbard: Not a Chilean. Interlocutor: Why do you mean by “Not a Chilean”? Ron Hubbard: Because people have been cured from other countries. Interlocutor: Are these aliens ethical? Ron Hubbard: Yes, they are ethical. Interlocutor: Do they pretend to be Mormons? Ron Hubbard: No, that is not true. They disguise only as fishermen, even sloppy in order to not akawe curiosity. Interlocutor: What do they do in the central base? I mean what is their purpose?. Ron Hubbard: Fundamentally, they are here to make a complete study of the DNA, and as I said they use terrestrial animals to experiment. Interlocutor: Do you ratify that they do no experiment with humans? Ron Hubbard: Yes, I ratify it totally. The humans cooperate. I refer to American scientists. These aliens don't hurt, they don't abduct. Interlocutor: How many Americans are there in that secondary base? Ron Hubbard: In a given moment they were forty, but at the present moment there are around 20 or 25. Interlocutor: When they were they forty? Ron Hubbard: In the decade of the eighties and the nineties. Interlocutor: And how many Immans, or Nordics are there in that secondary base? Ron Hubbard: They cannot be numbered because they go back and forth. They are not permanently there, but rather in the main base. Interlocutor: I understand. But in total how many immans are there?. Ron Hubbard: Around two hundred twenty and two hundred forty. Interlocutor: Have these Americans also seen the greys? Ron Hubbard: Yes, they have also seen them, because they also bring provisions to the secondary base. Interlocutor: So the Greys don't have any problem if the Americans notice their presence? Ron Hubbard: Of course not. Interlocutor: I deduce that these scientists know how to keep their mouths shut. Ron Hubbard: Sure, because for them it is a tremendous satisfaction being able to cooperate with the extraterrestrials in the investigation of DNA. It is also good for them to acquire knowledge that they would not have in other way. Many of them have written books about the discoveries they have made, but they don’t mention the true origin. Interlocutor: So, They have taken directly the credit for the discoveries? Ron Hubbard: Of course. Imagine their books, they won't write: “We cooperated with an extraterrestrial race.”. Any discovery they make, they take it as their own. Interlocutor: Then it has been very convenient for them when they were hired to cooperate. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Even in the last years there was a Japanese who is living in the United States who has earned a Nobel prize for "his" discoveries in the extraterrestrial base of the Immans. Interlocutor: But Are there scientists of other nationalities? Ron Hubbard: Yes, but I didn't mention it because he is not in Japan, but rather he is living in the United States. Interlocutor: I understand. Ron Hubbard: If you check the Internet, you can find this biologist's data who some years ago earned the Nobel prize and who was in the South. Interlocutor: Are there more scientist who earned the Nobel prize due to the contact with the Immans? Ron Hubbard: Yes, there is also a Swedish scientist who earned a Nobel a prize Nobel for “his” discoveries in quantum physics. Interlocutor: The point is clear. Do Immans have somehow telepathy? Ron Hubbard: No, the Immans are human. I emphasize human. They do not have more attributes than you do. Interlocutor: I understand. How about the one who says he is a "contactee" and that he channels them? Ron Hubbard: It’s not true. Interlocutor: I believe that he is being deceived by the spirits of error. Ron Hubbard: Totally. Interlocutor: As for that woman Isabel, did she ever have a telepathic contact? Ron Hubbard: No, not at all. There was a personal contact of fraternal affection but nothing else, and those two Immans only said things that she distorted with her fantasies. The spirits of error also took advantage of her and they altered her mental decoder making her delusional. Interlocutor: Does that relationship continue? Ron Hubbard: In these moments practically not. Interlocutor: There is a person called Carlos Gonzalez C. who claims that his wife Carmen Carvajal and his daughters Jessica and Clara were kidnapped in the island. I suppose already that this is not true. Ron Hubbard: Yes, it is not true. Interlocutor: In this matter of the “Nordics” there is a curious story. In a certain occasion, it seems that a boat of them called Mitilos damaged by accident to another boat and the Immans paid the expenses with Chilean money. When the sailors went to the bank with that money they realized that all the bills had the same series and they thought that it was false, but the authorities of the bank received them because the bills were “authentic”. If the fact was real, how could they do something like that? Ron Hubbard: The fact was real. What happens is that the bills were identical to the real bills, which were made by the Immans. What happens is that they didn't take care of that small detail. Interlocutor: Do they use this system constantly? Ron Hubbard: No, only in very special cases, because they don't need to do it. Interlocutor: Why not? Ron Hubbard: Because they get legal money changing silver for money. I refer to the metal called silver, of course. Interlocutor: That simple? Ron Hubbard: Yes, that simple, but the main source of income are the dollars that the American scientists and biologists bring from the United States. Interlocutor: Do you mean that they also exchange silver with them? Ron Hubbard: Sure. And also other things. The Immans don't need to forge money, they have done it one or two times only for very justifiable cases of supreme urgency. Interlocutor: I understand. The ethics at utmost degree would be something absurd because it can provoke a bigger damage. Ron Hubbard: Of course. Interlocutor: Which is the energy source they use to maintain the base? Ron Hubbard: It is a source very similar source to the eolic energy. Interlocutor: Do you mean that they use the wind? Ron Hubbard: Yes, and also anti-gravity and many things more. Besides, it is not polluting. Interlocutor: Nothing related to atomic energy? Ron Hubbard: No, nothing. Besides, any other system would imply to have apparatuses on the surface and this circumstance would give them away. Interlocutor: I understand. I didn't ask about the size of the base. Ron Hubbard: The main base has around 500 x 500 mts. Interlocutor: And the depth? Ron Hubbard: Around 200 mts. Interlocutor: But it is huge, much bigger than Area 51! Ron Hubbard: Yes, it is really huge. Interlocutor: And the secondary base? Ron Hubbard: It is cubic: 100 x 100 x 100. Interlocutor: We are always speaking in meters. Ron Hubbard: Yes, meters. It is smaller than the other because it is only for research. Interlocutor: How many levels does the main base have? Ron Hubbard: Calculate that each story has 20 mts, it would be 5 floors. Interlocutor: And the secondary? Ron Hubbard: The same number of floors, because the height of each floor is smaller. Interlocutor: I understand. Is it their moral advance bigger compared to ours? Ron Hubbard: No, it is not. They are ethical, nothing else. In them philosophy doesn’t prevail, but technology. They are devoted to scientific investigation. What happens is that in their planet there are no wars like here. They live in peace. Interlocutor: What is their average life span? Ron Hubbard: Although they are human, they live 120 years-old average, which means that some live more and other less, but the average is this. When they are 45 or 50 years old they look like humans in their thirties. Interlocutor: I understand. How many people live in their planet? Ron Hubbard: More or less two thousand millions. Interlocutor: Around the third part of our population. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: According to your explanation, it doesn't interest them philosophy, I deduce that all the things that people have said about them awaiting the Return of Christ and all those strories are only fables. Ron Hubbard: Correct, none of those stories are true, they are only fairy tales. Interlocutor: Is there a medium among them? Ron Hubbard: Yes, there are mediums, but they are the exception, because they are concentrated on material issues, especially in prolonging the life of the physical organism. The spiritual thing doesn't interest them. Interlocutor: Of all the things that several people or investigators have said about Friendship Island, what percentage could be real and what percentage could be false? Ron Hubbard: 5% or 10% can hardly be true. Interlocutor: Is the rest all imagination? Ron Hubbard: Correct. The human decoder is so fragile that it distorts everything. Interlocutor: By any chance The Nordics or Immans communicated with some Chileans through radiotelephony? People say that there are many hours recorded of those communications. Ron Hubbard: Discard that , because it is absolutely false. They don't communicate in that way. Interlocutor: Then somebody was deceiving them. Ron Hubbard: Of course. They don't communicate with people from outside because if only one of them opened the mouth, they would lose years of investigation. On this aspect they are very careful. Interlocutor: But what about Isabel? Ron Hubbard: It was an exceptional case and they made a mistake when they talked to her, I already clarified that. Interlocutor: Do Immans have some technique to cure cancer? Ron Hubbard: Yes, they have it. Interlocutor: There is a person called Ernesto de la Fuente who said that he was taken to the island and they cured him of a cancer he had. Is that true? Ron Hubbard: No, it is completely false, because they don't allow that any terrestrial enters to the base. Interlocutor: Nobody was cured of cancer in the continent? Ron Hubbard: None. Interlocutor: Was some Chilean cured of cancer? Ron Hubbard: No, not Chilean, but an American. Interlocutor: An American that worked in the secondary base? Ron Hubbard: Yes... I repeat that they try to have the minimal contact with terrestrials from outside. Interlocutor: Do Immans use some artifact in the nose to breathe? Ron Hubbard: No, because they are human. Demistify all of this: they are human, they have the same DNA that the humans have, they don't need filters, they don't need adaptation to the atmosphere, they don't need anything. Interlocutor: But some difference has to exist! Ron Hubbard: The only difference is the average height, which is 1,90 m and the terrestrial is 1,70 m., In addition, their hearts beats slower, instead of having 72 throbs like humans have, they have 68 throbs. But this is due to their athletic great condition. Their DNA is a little bit more advanced also, and it allows that the race lives around 45 or 50 years more of life than the terrestrial race, which only reaches an average of 75 years, no matter how exceptionally some people live 100 years. Some Immans can even live 150 years. Interlocutor: Could you repeat that so that it is clear? Ron Hubbard: Okay. The Immans have the same DNA that the terrestrials have. The difference is that their DNA has been structured - "modified" would not be the word - by the great investigations, at this time their average life span is 120 terrestrial years compared to the average 75 years of the terrestrials. Exceptionally some terrestrial people can live until 100 years, and some Immans can live until 150 years. Interlocutor: Okay. Ron Hubbard: The other difference is the height. The average height average of the terrestrial is around 1,75 m. And the Immans reach an average of 1,90 m. Around 10 or 20 cm. more. Interlocutor: Obviously, the differences are not so big. Ron Hubbard: No, they are not. On the other hand, As I already said, they have techniques to disable the spermatozoids and in this way they do not knock terrestrial woman up, they have sexual intercourse with terrestrial women though. They have serums to avoid any kind of infection. Interlocutor: So, they don't need to use condoms? Ron Hubbard: Correct. They are not infected with any illness. Practically they don't have illnesses and they have ended up defeating cancer, to such point that, as well as I already said, they have cured American scientists that collaborated with them in the secondary base. They don’t cure Chileans because they don't want to arouse suspicions. When people of the Island see them, they think that they come from a Nordic base and that they are fishermen and then they don't pay attention to them. They are dressed in a so sloppy way so that not even the most feverish mind would relate them to extraterrestrials. When they return to their base, as dirty as they were, they pass through a kind of a cleaner filter and they are desinfected. They even have a kind of ray that eliminates pediculosis in their beards and hair. They don’t clean the clothes, but rather they sterilize them because when they return to the surface they put the same clothes on to pass unnoticed again. The disguise is so good that even the locals of the island escape from them as soon as they see them closer in order to not be contaminated. Interlocutor: Unbelievable! Ron Hubbard: They can go to a tavern and drink a black beer and eat fish or goat, because in that coast there is no bovine meat, and people take them naturally as terrestrials. Interlocutor: Somebody said that the “Nordics” bought sick livestock. Ron Hubbard: It is false, because they don't need to do it. Besides, that behavior would arouse many suspicions, the same thing that communicating telegraphically. The place would be full of journalists. Put yourself in their place and tell me if you would buy sick livestock. It would be the same thing that holding an banner that says: “Hello, we are extraterrestrials, we are here!” Interlocutor: Well, we are practically doing that through the Internet. Ron Hubbard: Yes, but we want to reveal that. They want to work quietly without any terrestrial interference. Interlocutor: I understand. Do Immans communicate with a language? Ron Hubbard: With an spoken language like humans. Interlocutor: Obviously in their language. Ron Hubbard: Yes, but they also speak Spanish and English. Interlocutor: And other languages? Ron Hubbard: Only some. They can speak Swedish, Danish. Interlocutor: Is it true that they take aspirins, as people say, or it’s nonsense? Ron Hubbard: No, it is not nonsense. Aspirin is practically universal and it’s taken in many worlds. Interlocutor: I would have never imagined it. I believe that I read that Isabel said that the aspirin can even help to avoid the effects of radiation in the event of a nuclear war? Ron Hubbard: That is a total nonsense. Interlocutor: I already thought so. Is there a Nordic living in some city of Chile? For example attending people in a clinic? Ron Hubbard: No, not at all. It is astonishing the foolishness that people have said about this whole matter. Interlocutor: Here I have something interesting. Apparently the “Nordics” have predicted events that have happened, like the accident of the Challenger in 1986 for example. Ron Hubbard: They have the technology to travel through time, something that will be achieved in some centuries on the planet Earth. Interlocutor: Concretely, Is this the reason they can predict accurately the facts that will happen in the future? Ron Hubbard: Yes, because you already know that fortune-telling doesn't exist in the physical plane. Interlocutor: But should not have they keep the secret? Because the Chileans would comment it with all certainty, and so they did. Ron Hubbard: The Immans did not speak, those who spoke were the Americans at some moment they went to the city. Interlocutor: Obviously they didn't resist the temptation to reveal the secret. Ron Hubbard: Correct. Interlocutor: Well, Master, I believe that this matter of Friendship Island - or Immans or Nordics or whatever they are called - is clear enough, at least for the time being. Ron Hubbard: The vessel is very tired, make one more question if you want before concluding the session. Interlocutor: I have some questions to make about cancer. Ron Hubbard: That could take some time, we better leave it for a next session. Interlocutor: Okay, Master, see you later. Ron Hubbard: I leave all my Light with all of you. [1] SESSION 28/SEPT/04 Medium: Jorge Olguin. Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont. Entity that came to dialogue: Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and Scientology. Interlocutor: Master I’d like to concluye the session clarifying a confusion I had about Friendship Island. Previously you said that there were extraterrestrials in Easter Island in conflict with another extraterrestrial race, but it seems that you only mentioned two races called Kabec and Dorm and you did not mention the Immans. Ron Hubbard: Actually the Immans were not in conflict. They were simply a third race which was practically without interaction with other extraterrestrial races. Interlocutor: Now I have it clear. | 
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