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Medium: Jorge Raul Olguin.

Entity that came to dialogue: Master Ruanel.
Interlocutor: Are you already incorporated, Master Ruanel?
Ruanel: That’s right.
Interlocutor: Can we start with the questions?
Ruanel: Ah, what I like!
Interlocutor: Well, the first question is related to our accusation of the dark business of Bondage. Did it happen something positive or everything continues exactly the same?
Ruanel: No, there is no positive result because there is a lot of indifference on behalf of people. The only thing that I have to add on this matter is that this vessel collaborated somehow so that people be aware of this problem in a radio program in Spain where he was interviewed.
Interlocutor: What was the result?
Ruanel: Well, let us say that there were some hundreds of radio listeners who have meditated on the topic.
Interlocutor: Nothing more than that?
Ruanel: It’s still useful.
Interlocutor: In short, those mobsters continue doing the same thing without any problem.
Ruanel: Regrettably that is correct.
Interlocutor: It sounds to me very strange that no authority has even paid attention to the topic, Even more when it’s a horrific case of tortured women before the eyes of everybody.
Ruanel: There is a lot of indifference.
Interlocutor: Do skeptics also continue with their blind postures denying UFOs and the spiritual world? In short, do they continue with their phobias against UFOs and spirits?
Ruanel: Correct, and they also have phobias against all that is related to esoterism and they continue with their “truth”. In some cases they are skeptical people that directly convert into fools when denying what evidently is real.
Interlocutor: In the case of skeptics, they must have ego and engrams without any doubt, otherwise it is not possible, and excuse me the term, so much imbecility.
Ruanel: Obvious, obvious.
Interlocutor: What I am not very sure is if they do it in bad faith or rather by stupidity.
Ruanel: Don't think so. There are skeptical people that make fun and verbally denigrate, not only to your group but also to other groups. They take as irrational to all those who believe in the spiritual world.
Interlocutor: Well, the point is clear and it is not worthwhile to waste more time with this topic. Another of the questions I had enough confusion with is related to the business of pornography. How do you see this matter in the spiritual world?
Ruanel: I’ll explain it in the same way I’d speak about any other topic. All that is made with balance is okay. All that is made without hurting third parties because there is a mutual agreement is also okay. But sometimes pornography, in a TV program in a schedule where there are children, or girls, is noxious and extremely hostile, because a child doesn't have the capacity to understand or comprehend what he or she watching.
Interlocutor: Okay that is another story and I have it clear.
Ruanel: If a boy watches that type of adult programs, these films can cause him infinite engrams.
Interlocutor: And outside of children’s programming?
Ruanel: Outside of children’s programming there is no inconvenience because an adult person can change the channel, and if pornography is in a magazine, he or she can leave this magazine aside. In this case there is no hostile act because the adult person can choose freely.
Interlocutor: And what about pornography itself? And sex business?
Ruanel: First, I will refer to human beings based on sex. Animals which mental decoders are smaller and they don't have so high reason as the homo sapiens has, they practice sex directly to procreate by hormonal impulse.
The human being homo sapiens also makes sex by hormonal impulse, the male more than the female, because the male gets excited just by seeing the body of the opposite sex, but the emotional factor is also involved, and it is not bad to be involved emotionally.
Interlocutor: And what about love?
Ruanel: Sure!, the ideal thing would be when there is love between both parts, a personal love based on respect, because it has always been said that sex is not a lack of respect.
If there is love between both parts a change of energies is conjugated, a subtle change, an animation in all the chakras is conjugated, and in that way the woman doesn't suffer the high energy drop that she can have sometimes.
Interlocutor: And pornography?
Ruanel: Pornography, where there is no feeling because it is only a carnal eagerness is indifferent. I cannot mark it as negative if it doesn't affect creatures.
Interlocutor: In short, pornography will be valid or invalid depending on whether there is or there is no hostile act. I mean if a woman is forced to have sex in a pornographic film.
Ruanel: In that case it would already exceed the pornographic thing and it would be another thing.
Interlocutor: Bondage, for example?
Ruanel: Bondage or rape.
Interlocutor: So pornography is, as a rule indifferent, depending on each case.
Ruanel: What is necessary to keep in mind is that sex is good, because in sex an interchange of energies can exist, but in pornography that does not exist. The genital manipulation is not bad either.
Interlocutor: Do you mean masturbation?
Ruanel: Correct, masturbation is not negative at all, and I clarify it once again because many incarnated beings, males and females can create guilt complexes and engrams by masturbating, when in fact masturbation is a normal physiological act and it does not hurt third parties…
Interlocutor: Of course that we are speaking about masturbation with balance.
Ruanel: Of course that it must be balanced. With balance I mean that a very continuous masturbation can even weaken a person.
Interlocutor: That’s clear, Master. And what about pornography business?
Ruanel: It would be debauchery if children were involved. I leave this absolutely clear.
Interlocutor: In short, if pornography is consensual…
Ruanel: By mutual agreement between consenting adults it’s okay, otherwise, if there is a child involved, it becomes a hostile act and hostile acts generate karmas, and obviously we, the Masters of Light, do not approve that.
Interlocutor: Then, the key as for pornography business as a rule is indifferent, depending on each case.
Ruanel: Pornography doesn't stop being pernicious because it can create sex addicts, it’s like gambling. Gambling is also indifferent.
Interlocutor: Master, what you say is clear.
Ruanel: Gambling is also indifferent, but there are people that leave their families without food because they waste their money in two or three days on a gambling table.
Interlocutor: Summarizing, pornography is like gambling, as a rule it’s indifferent, but later on, it will be necessary to analyze case by case if that quality has been exceeded from indifferent and it has turned to another thing like an addiction.
Ruanel: Correct.
Interlocutor: Well, then I give this matter concluded.

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